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netboy 04-02-2011 08:49 PM

To flush or not to flush........
 
Recently purchased an 83 300D with a bad tranny. Checked the pan for metal, checked modulator press and vacuum. 3rd gear flairs to the point its gone. After a few test drives, I dropped the again pan to change the valve body and found the pan full of metal flakes and chunks. I have another tranny from an 81 300SD but I could not obtain the torque converter because the engine was locked up.
I have read on the forum that it is bad to flush a transmission system due to inducing problems. Has anyone successfully flushed a transmission cooler, lines, and torque converter without trashing the next tranny? Can you flush a torque converter and reuse it?:rolleyes:

layback40 04-02-2011 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by netboy (Post 2691804)
Recently purchased an 83 300D with a bad tranny. Checked the pan for metal, checked modulator press and vacuum. 3rd gear flairs to the point its gone. After a few test drives, I dropped the again pan to change the valve body and found the pan full of metal flakes and chunks. I have another tranny from an 81 300SD but I could not obtain the torque converter because the engine was locked up.
I have read on the forum that it is bad to flush a transmission system due to inducing problems. Has anyone successfully flushed a transmission cooler, lines, and torque converter without trashing the next tranny? Can you flush a torque converter and reuse it?:rolleyes:

You definitely should flush the TC & cooler & hope that they are good.
You may (should) replace the front seal on the trans as the TC may not lign up on the seal the same.

leathermang 04-02-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by netboy (Post 2691804)
I have read on the forum that it is bad to flush a transmission system due to inducing problems. Has anyone successfully flushed a transmission cooler, lines, and torque converter without trashing the next tranny? Can you flush a torque converter and reuse it?:rolleyes:

That is an old wives tale and we have thoroughly debunked that Magic fluid inside it theory...

If you can do a good flush you should be able to use it...

JHZR2 04-02-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by leathermang (Post 2691812)
That is an old wives tale and we have thoroughly debunked that Magic fluid inside it theory...

If you can do a good flush you should be able to use it...

Agree. Nothing bad about doing a flush. All good. The bad is having a mimimum wage monkey without a clue doing stuff to sell products and not what is technically sound.

I would definitely flush my radiator cooler, lines and the TC thuroughly. Id buy a few gallons of ATF and an electric pump to flush everything. No big deal...

Id also buy a magnefine or equivalent and put it inline to protect further...

leathermang 04-02-2011 11:49 PM

LOL, minimum wage monkeys are bad for EveryThing. For the effort you must expend to watch them ( for your stuff's protection ) you can do it yourself with much more pleasure and security....

DieselPaul 04-02-2011 11:51 PM

Its sad, I saw this thread title on the homepage and thought it was about wheels. Ugh, a sign of the times.

whunter 04-03-2011 12:23 AM

FYI
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by netboy (Post 2691804)
Recently purchased an 83 300D with a bad tranny.
Checked the pan for metal, checked modulator press and vacuum.
3rd gear flairs to the point its gone.
After a few test drives, I dropped the again pan to change the valve body and found the pan full of metal flakes and chunks.
I have another tranny from an 81 300SD but I could not obtain the torque converter because the engine was locked up.

The 300SD has an electronic speedometer..


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netboy 04-04-2011 09:44 PM

yeah, I knew the speedos were different, but I can swap the backends of the tranny for a mechanical speedo drive from the original, right?
what is a magnefine,who sells them and where does it go, in the pan?

vstech 04-04-2011 10:46 PM

A magnefine (basically a magnet in the drain plug, or stuck to the bottom of the pan) won't do much, as most of the metal in the transmission is aluminum. the clutch wear plates are of course steel, as is the TC...

leathermang 04-05-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2692963)
A magnefine (basically a magnet in the drain plug, or stuck to the bottom of the pan) won't do much, as most of the metal in the transmission is aluminum. the clutch wear plates are of course steel, as is the TC...

This gave me an idea concerning the thread about the guy with the #12 vacuum pump bearing possibly wandering around the bottom of the engine oil pan and rubbing against the oil pump pickup screen... finally wearing through and trashing the oil pump and the engine if not turned off quick enough after that collision..
A big magnet... if positioned correctly under the oil pickup screen might keep that ( hopefully and assumed magnetically attracted ) bearing against the bottom of the pan and not let it penetrate the oil pickup screen (?).
We need someone with their pan off to post the dimensions needed to accurately position that magnet on the bottom of the pan. Perhaps even without having a vacuum pump give way on that type engine.... just in case...
But I can not find that thread again... LOL... John , can you help ?

JHZR2 04-05-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2692963)
A magnefine (basically a magnet in the drain plug, or stuck to the bottom of the pan) won't do much, as most of the metal in the transmission is aluminum. the clutch wear plates are of course steel, as is the TC...

Magnefine is a brand of inline filters, not just a magnet in the sump.

netboy 04-05-2011 06:34 PM

That sounds like a good idea, considering the alternative. I assume its slaved in just prior to the cooler. On a 722.3 which side line is the supply and which is return to the tranny?
Is there any trick to swapping the aft end of the trannies...?


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