Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-04-2011, 03:42 PM
Tinkerer
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 14
New member, old car... 69 220D issues

Hello everyone.

I just picked up a 1969 220D. It's in decent shape, no rust, fair interior.
The engine starts but smokes a bit. Brakes are shot--the rears drag and the fronts plain don't work. The tires are good but it's gonna need an alignment.

I'm hoping to work out all it's issues and use it as cheap albeit slow transportation.

Anyway, I have access to a parts car but it's a w123 240D. Can anyone point me in the direction of a parts interchange list (if it exists)?

Thanks!!

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-04-2011, 03:50 PM
Biodiesel300TD's Avatar
|3iodiesel300T|)
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Albany, OR
Posts: 4,845
There isn't going to be a whole lot interchangable between the 115 and 123. A few engine related parts and a few odd and ends here and there but not a whole lot.
__________________
Andrew
'04 Jetta TDI Wagon
'82 300TD ~ Winnie ~ Sold
'77 300D ~ Sold
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-04-2011, 03:52 PM
JHZR2's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,270
PICS?????!!!????
__________________
Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-04-2011, 03:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 5,135
Welcome to the group. Some parts like the rear brakes will probably be interchangeable but if you can pull together a list of issues, i'm sure people here can help you figure out what you need.

I had much the same issues with mine and bought rebuilt calipers and replaced the hoses which quickly resolved the issues.

Stop by www.****.org which is a website that is dedicated to the 68-76 W114/W115 models.

edited out competing site info... will replace if webmaster approves.

Last edited by vstech; 04-04-2011 at 05:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-04-2011, 04:02 PM
Tinkerer
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 14
picture...

More later...

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-04-2011, 04:12 PM
Save the manuals!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: .
Posts: 3,477
nice car... try to wax with zymol... you will be pleased with the results
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-04-2011, 06:02 PM
vstech's Avatar
DD MOD, HVAC,MCP,Mac,GMAC
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Mount Holly, NC
Posts: 26,841
Welcome to the forum!
we have a vintage forum, but most members are here in Diesel Discussion. PLENTY here to learn and help on your car!

post all the questions you have, and we'll help all we can!
__________________
John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-04-2011, 07:21 PM
Tinkerer
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 14
Thanks guys.

I'm excited about learning all I can about these cars. I hope to get it back on the road for minimal cash so this won't be a restoration but I'm no hack either.

Thanks for the warm welcome. I'm sure I'll have tons of questions.

Actually, here's one: the PO must been used a power buffer because the paint has been buffed off at the top of the fenders. Where can I find the paint codes on the car? I'm hoping to find a cheap solution. Duplicolor, perhaps?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-04-2011, 07:44 PM
79Mercy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,131
www.paintscratch.com will show paint codes.. Duplicolor will not have the correct paint.

So is this a 4-speed gearbox, or an automatic?

Rear brakes from a W123 240D might work, you might have to modify the 1969 brake hoses as they use metal fittings coming off the calipers, shouldnt be to much trouble.

The front brakes from the 240D might not work, one W115's the caliper is mounted behind the hub, on W123's it is mounted in font of the hub. The only difference would be the hose connection and bleeder. They will bolt up just fine.
__________________
1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon
1979 280CE 225,200 miles
1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles
1976 240D 190,000 miles
1979 300TD 220,000

GONE but not forgotten
1976 300D 195,300 miles
1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-04-2011, 08:07 PM
Tinkerer
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 14
Thanks. It's a 4-speed. Wouldn't have bought it if it was an auto as I've heard those are even slower.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-04-2011, 08:30 PM
Save the manuals!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: .
Posts: 3,477
Quote:
Originally Posted by tide13 View Post
Thanks. It's a 4-speed. Wouldn't have bought it if it was an auto as I've heard those are even slower.
I couldn't imagine an auto 220D. The 240D is slow enough.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-04-2011, 08:46 PM
79Mercy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,131
I have driven a couple automatic 220D's. They are about like a 240D auto, not a huge difference to be honest.
__________________
1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon
1979 280CE 225,200 miles
1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles
1976 240D 190,000 miles
1979 300TD 220,000

GONE but not forgotten
1976 300D 195,300 miles
1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-05-2011, 11:45 AM
Tinkerer
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 14
What about the alternator? The parts car has a brand new 120amp unit on it, guy wants $70 for it. Are the glowplugs and injectors different? What's the going rate for used injectors? IP? It's also got a Thule roof rack on it. The rack clamps to the gutters so I can't imagine it not fitting. Where can I find after-market rubber? I need a shift boot and eventually seals.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-05-2011, 04:11 PM
79Mercy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,131
Hmm i dont think the alternator will work perfectly, check that the wiring is the same on both cars... Wiring would be my only concern,if its the same then go for it. 70 is to much for a used alt though.

Check the fuel return lines on the 1969 injectors, are they metal, if so the injectors in the 240D are different. The later injectors used rubber return lines.

IP has a different fuel output.
__________________
1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon
1979 280CE 225,200 miles
1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles
1976 240D 190,000 miles
1979 300TD 220,000

GONE but not forgotten
1976 300D 195,300 miles
1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-05-2011, 08:55 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Maine midcoast
Posts: 14
115 parts

Hi everyone.I am trying to stay within the rules here with my post.I'm going to be parting out my 240d 115 soon. This rusted out car is going to give me the parts to go 4 spd manual into my 82 126.
it still has brakes and clutch working after sitting for 5 yrs.the motor runs great,It started at 10 degrees.The parts I need for the trans swap i'm keeping, but I'd like to see the rest used.
like the brakes mentioned here.Is it allowed to offer these items for sale here? Thanks.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page