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OM617 mated to different Trans
Hey everyone. Love the forum. Tons of info. I just picked up an om617 with 85k on the clock. Its going into my jeep cherokee. I was hoping some of the pros here would have the dimensions of the rear of the engine. I have to fab an adapter plate to make my trans fit the diesel. So I guess I would be looking for the crank centerline to MB trans adapter bolt hole distances.
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I don't know the details but 4x4labs may sell an adapter. I belive it is pricey-$1000.May want to check out their web site.
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there is already a trans adapter plate on the OM617. Best bet would be to get the current adapter to spot the 6 holes that attach it to the block and to get the starter hole dimension. Then you could fab a plate to replace it for your intended transmission
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pistonhead,
Welcome to the forum!!! We are all keen to help as much as we can. I wish you luck getting that sort of information. Are you adapting to the manual or auto jeep? I believe the diesel jeep has a different trans to the petrol one. Sorry I cant help any more. Next Question !!!
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(Please note I'm happy to help - but I'm a slow mover! Don't expect instant answers) PS welcome to the forum PPS there is a fairly recent thread regarding an OM617 throttle linkage in a Toyota (I think) - search for that may be the author of that thread has dimensions
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Not only are the bolt holes important, The length of the TC (assuming its an auto) will be important.
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Search the forum. Someone has posted here in the past who has a 617 in a Cherokee. There's probably info in his postings about what transmission he used and how he adapted it.
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Welcome to the forum! I know it's been done before, I did a little Google search for you, and found TONS of pages... get ready for some reading!
http://www.peachparts.com/search.htm?cx=015238323195528004774%3A_wneywo5nvm&cof=FORID%3A9&q=engine+in+Jeep&sa=Search&siteurl=www.peachparts.com%2Fshopforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D297239#892
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If enough people went together..
KEP... Kennedy Engineered Products used to make adapters for all sorts of combinations.. They have been doing this a LONG TIME... http://kennedyenginc.com/default.aspx
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Vladdo did a plate to an ax15 jeep tranz
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Thanks for all of the replies! My jeep is a 95 with the 5.2 v8. I realized I need to get the crank centerline-to-bellhousing bolt hole measurements off of my current engine to build the plate since I already have the om617 to measure from.
I do have some other questions though> What should the fuel inlet pressure be to the IP from the lift pump? Are these engine internally balanced or externally? What is the the factory setting for the turbo(psi)? Whats should the average oil pressure be (idle and cruise)? |
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Check with Funola on the LP pressure.
some are internally balanced, some are externally... have the flywheel on the motor you have checked by a machine shop. IIRC the turbo is set to max out at 11psi average oil pressure is likely going to be 60psi. it'll go over 100, and under 20 though.
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