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Old 05-02-2011, 05:22 PM
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OM616 in a 190e Chassis

I am considering putting my turbo charged, intercooled, angled injector, 10mm MW IP, 616 with a 6 speed manual trans, into a 92 190e chassis.

I looked at the 190 this weekend and took some measurements. It would be very tight, and I would need to remove the stock oil filter housing, but it would fit. I think I could even keep the mechanical fan.

I have done some research on the 190e and havenít found anything terribly wrong with the chassis. I am wondering if the rear diff and clutch pedal assembly from a 124 chassis will fit in the 201 chassis.

I am going for a high mileage, performance package. The car is smaller than I want, but the fuel savings will compensate for that.

Anything about the 201 that I should know about that would change my mind?

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Old 05-02-2011, 05:26 PM
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why not go for a 190D 2.5 turbo?
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Its been done before.

http://190rev.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36812
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:31 PM
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why not go for a 190D 2.5 turbo?
I have a 78 240D that has terminal cancer and have done a lot of work the the engine. I am also looking at another 123 to put it in, but the thought of up gradeing to a sportier model is AUFUL tempting.

I can get the 190 for a couple hundred bucks as it has a bad engine. The body is not as good as I want, but it is manageable.
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:40 PM
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I figured some one had done it! That is why I posted the idea.

I was concerned about the oil pan but it fits nicely. Thanks, that answers a lot of questions. I wonder if he ever drove it?
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He is a nice guy, frequents the rev quite a bit. You should contact him.
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why not go for a 190D 2.5 turbo?
theres one on ebay right now actually with a 5 speed
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Old 05-02-2011, 07:56 PM
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that one is on the forum as well
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Putting a 616 in a W201 is like a 30 year old needing a heart transplant getting one from a 90 year old !!
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Putting a 616 in a W201 is like a 30 year old needing a heart transplant getting one from a 90 year old !!
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Putting a 616 in a W201 is like a 30 year old needing a heart transplant getting one from a 90 year old !!

Just for that, I think I am going to do it!!!
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The pedal box and gear lever are the same parts for both the 190 and the w124, so it should be easy to find them.
The converted car in the picture looks like it started as a 6 cylinder car so has more room up front than a 4 cylinder. Worth thinking about if you need a big radiator.

Go for it.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:22 AM
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The pedal box and gear lever are the same parts for both the 190 and the w124, so it should be easy to find them.
The converted car in the picture looks like it started as a 6 cylinder car so has more room up front than a 4 cylinder. Worth thinking about if you need a big radiator.

Go for it.
From the measurements I took of the 190e engine compartment, compared to my 616 engine, if I eliminate the oil filter housing and push the engine all the way to the fire wall like in the picture, the remaining distance from the water pump pulley to the 190e radiator looks to be enough to allow me to use the mechanical fan with the fan clutch.

I think I am going to have to use different manifolds from the looks of the pictures, but that is not a big deal.

From what I can see, the picture jives with the measurements I have taken. I looked at the pictures on the other forum, and I think there is enough room in the tunnel for the 6 speed!

I am looking for a nicer body as the one I looked at has more rust than I would like. If I can't find anything better, I'll get that one and fix the rust.

With 150 to 200 hp, a 6 speed, and a 3.69 rear end, it should be a fun car.
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Old 05-04-2011, 05:01 PM
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The deal fell through with the 190E I was looking at. The body was not that great so I am not too bummed.

I am looking for a solid 190e that is not beaten up, (a good transplant candidate), to put my 616 in. I have located a couple out of state, but it will cost more in fuel to go and get them than the car costs.

If anyone knows of a good car, (donít care about the engine or trans), in the Michigan area, I would appreciate a point in its direction.

Thanks.
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Too bad you are in michigan, you ought to see what is in our PNP`s out west. Pristene bodys, some with as little as 95K, and almost perfect interiors.

Now if there was a way to get them before PNP sets them in the yards.

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