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Old 05-06-2011, 03:20 AM
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Rumble/Rattle from the front right wheel

The car is a '81 300SD

Whenever I run over a small bump or rough road I get a rumbling, low pitched rattle from the front right side. At first I thought it might be coming from the back, and checked the sway bar links, but they're good. My guess is either upper control arm or strut rod bushing. I checked both, and the upper control arm looks like it could be original, and I didn't get any play when I pulled on the strut arm. I put Bilstien comforts on the front about 3 months ago. The exhaust system is tight.
One interesting thing happened this evening when I checked the front wheel. When I bounced really hard on the front right fender, a loud click came from the wheel, I then jacked up the wheel, spun it a few times, checked for excessive play in the bearings and put the car back on the ground. Then when i bounced on the fender again, no clicking noise. Any guesses? Thanks

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Old 05-06-2011, 04:38 AM
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Did you check the wheel bearing play on the other side of the car?

Sometimes you think the sound is coming from one side but in reality the other side is at fault. Rumbling - as you describe it - sounds like a wheel bearing problem to me. When did you last repack the bearings with grease?
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Could be the Guide Rod mount. Look for the rod that comes off the lower control armm to the body. that bearing gets worn and will complain as the suspention move up and down.




Could also be a dry/bad wheel bearing.
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So I took off both wheels to check the brakes and linkage. The left brakes were worn twice as much as the right, which makes me think I have blockage in the right line since the wheel doesn't drag much when I spin it. Maybe what I'm hearing while driving over bumps is the pads rattling against the rotor.
The outside boot on the right tie rod is ripped which probably explains the rubbing sound that I sometimes get when turning the wheel at slow speeds or a stop.
There's a knocking sound that I can't locate when I move the right steering knuckle from left to right. It's either coming from the idler arm or the tie rod. Is the idler arm rebuild a tough job? Thanks for your help.
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Old 05-08-2011, 03:04 AM
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W123 Tie/Drag Rods and Idler Arm Rebuild DIY
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Old 05-08-2011, 03:16 AM
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So I took off both wheels to check the brakes and linkage. The left brakes were worn twice as much as the right, which makes me think I have blockage in the right line since the wheel doesn't drag much when I spin it. Maybe what I'm hearing while driving over bumps is the pads rattling against the rotor.
The outside boot on the right tie rod is ripped which probably explains the rubbing sound that I sometimes get when turning the wheel at slow speeds or a stop.
There's a knocking sound that I can't locate when I move the right steering knuckle from left to right. It's either coming from the idler arm or the tie rod. Is the idler arm rebuild a tough job? Thanks for your help.

Not hard at all. 1 big bolt, knock the old rubber bush out, put the new in & then put the new bolt in. About as hard as replacing pads.
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Old 05-08-2011, 08:09 PM
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Thanks guys,

I'll tackle the tie rod and idler arm sometime in the next two weeks. Even if the rumble still persists afterwards, these will be good R&R's to tighten up the steering.

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