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Old 07-10-2011, 08:36 PM
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Just curious why you'd do only the head on an engine that already has 250K miles on it. Aren't you worried about sucking a ring?

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If your gasser is like the 617 diesel, you have to remove the entire tensioner and reinstall the plunger from the outside of the assembly. If you don't, you will burn up the tensioner rail. Don't ask me how I know.

There is a ratcheting system inside the tensioner that needs to be re-set when the tensioner is removed. When you pull the tensioner, the plunger is ratcheted all the way out by the spring and there will be too much tension when it is reinstalled. Just pull the plunger out to the inside and reinstall it from the outside while the assembly is removed. Then reinstall the assembly. The spring and oil pressure will automatically set the tension if you do this.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:17 PM
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Just curious why you'd do only the head on an engine that already has 250K miles on it. Aren't you worried about sucking a ring?
Not really, I've did the compression on the engine and it seems that everything is fine. I know the compression doesint really tell me whole lot about the rings. I bought the car in order to fix it and make money on it. If i was fixing the car for myself, then i would have refurbished the entire engine.

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If your gasser is like the 617 diesel, you have to remove the entire tensioner and reinstall the plunger from the outside of the assembly. If you don't, you will burn up the tensioner rail. Don't ask me how I know.

There is a ratcheting system inside the tensioner that needs to be re-set when the tensioner is removed. When you pull the tensioner, the plunger is ratcheted all the way out by the spring and there will be too much tension when it is reinstalled. Just pull the plunger out to the inside and reinstall it from the outside while the assembly is removed. Then reinstall the assembly. The spring and oil pressure will automatically set the tension if you do this.
I've did what you told me and it worked. I'll keep you guys updated. Thanks!
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:00 PM
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Well, then . . . don't have them replace springs or valves (universally) . . . only those you need to replace!!! Otherwise, if everything is replaced and "tight" . . . you might suck the rings before you have a chance to advertise it for sale. Gas engines normally are not designed to last that long without a rebuild. I think 300K is the upper limit (or abouts) for the gassers!!!
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Old 07-13-2011, 01:56 PM
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the shop that gave the cylinder head to, they inspected every single part and i told them to notify me if something is not right. they only replaced few valve guides(were bad) and valve stems (by my request), nothing else was replaced. everything else is still original...

im keeping my fingers crossed and trying to keep my faith about this car...
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:23 AM
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Ok guys, the car is almost ready to start, just a question about power steering fluid? What should i use? Because on Alldata, it says to use "ATF Steering Gear Oil" (Part number: A 000 989 88 03 10, subs to BQ 146 0001) So does it mean i can use ATF in power steering also?

I know on my bimmer, you can use atf in trans + power steering... I just wanted to be sure.
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:03 AM
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Steering Fluid

I guess that means you can use ATF in there.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:04 PM
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I am running ATF Dex 3 (same as tranny) in my power steering, probably coming on 2 years now. I have a jug of power steering fluid sitting on my shelf meaning to replace it.. but no problems. In fact, I'd say the ATF is weeping less at the power steering box than what was in there before (probably the original ps fluid, it was very dark).
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:48 PM
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Leaking?

It shouldn't be "weeping" or leaking at all . . . I'd check the clamps for the hydraulic hose going from the reservoir to the actual pump, itself. It's a ***** to replace, but will give you the opportunity to replace the O-rings on the hand pump while you're there replacing the hydraulic hose (many models require you get the hand pump out of the way to access the hydraulic hose for replacement. Can kill two birds with one stone! By now, if it hasn't been replaced yet, it's long overdue, anyways. The parts will be cheap at least!!!
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Thanks for the answer. Well, at least both of my vehicles (mercedes and bmw) can share there power steering fluid

Well guys, I've tried starting the thing up... no luck. I have about 9 gallons of gasoline in the tank (when i got it, it was on empty). I've checked if there was spark... but doing it alone really is a PITA, idk if i've seen the spark or not... so i was hopeless, but then i read something on the internet about using starting fluid... by some luck, I had a can of starting fluid so I WOT it and sprayed it, went inside the car cranked it few seconds, BOOM it fires up for just few seconds then it dies

so that got me thinking, maybe there is something wrong with the fuel system... Since the car ran for few seconds, means the ignition system is good. I was going to check the fuel pressure from the fuel rail but i dint had the adapter for it How can you check injectors? (or if there getting a signal)

Any suggestions on what to check next will be perfect

Thanks guys, this means a lot to me
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:32 PM
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UPDATE: So after going to local autozone, i picked up fuel pressure kit. So i connected it all up to the fuel rail, and manage to get a video for you guys.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqSVi6mljs

Judging by the Alldata specs, it looks ok to me... im going to still check on the rest pressure, but the car should have start up.

Closed Throttle with Vacuum 3.2 - 3.6 bar

Closed Throttle without Vacuum 3.7 - 4.2 bar

Rest Pressure 2.5 bar Note: Minimum
Note: After more than 30 minutes. 2.5 bar
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This is one of those that is hard to do from here.
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:20 PM
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lol

In reading through it alot of questions come to mind.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:05 PM
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Well guys, Im happy to report that finally I found out what the problem was... bad ground connection for all of the injectors. She started up beautifully... thanks for all the help guys!

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Hey guys, I recently bought a e320 94' with blown head gasket (i know its not a diesel) and was wondering do I need to mill the head also or can I just replace the gasket and call it a day?

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