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Old 05-26-2011, 03:24 AM
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Help me diagnose my turbo

Hi kids, I have a 1980 300SD W116 with 400,000 miles. Replaced the motor 6000 miles ago with a much newer one. Before and after the swap, the turbo produced 3 PSI at highway cruise, up to 8 PSI on hill climbs at 3000 RPM.
I put a limiter valve into the turbo sense line between the manifold and wastegate.
I have never adjusted the wastegate. With the limiter valve, I could get boost as high as 25 PSI, but I adjusted it to get just 14 PSI on 3000 RPM hill climbs. It was perfect.
Suddenly, now it only goes to 4 PSI, still holding 3 at cruise. I removed the valve and went back to a straight line to the turbo, no change. I have not reinstalled the valve and tightened it down yet, to see if I can bring the boost back up, because I want to understand what is happening.
My pressure gauge Tees into the line just before the electric valve on the firewall that is supposed to limit boost to protect the tranny.

Of course, the gauge could be failing, or have a leak in the hose. What else could be going wrong? Sticking my hand in the end of the turbo, the shaft seems to have no play and spins freely.

So how do these degrade? Is a seal failing, or a bearing won't let it spin up fast? I just thought I should try with the air filter removed, it is fairly dirty and I can imagine that might be limiting, but the 4PSI limit seems to be absolute without the valve installed.

Do I rebuild the turbo, buy a rebuilt one? From who? Diagnostics I should try?
Appreciate your wisdom!
Thanks!
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:20 AM
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My first guess is that your wastegate spring has gone soft or something along those lines.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:13 AM
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If you pull the wastegate hose off entirely, your boost should go to maximum that it can do.

If you can't get good boost in this position, then:
1. your wastegate valve is boogered (that's a technical term for cracked/open)
2. your turbo isn't compressing
3. you have a serious leak in the intake manifold so nothing is holding pressure
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:27 AM
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Welcome to the Forum, hope you stay for a long time.

This is the right place to get expert advice, go to the Junk yard and pull off a wreck.
That said, cheaper than a rebuilt one, and not all junk cars have junk parts. I have seen some good turbos in the PNP yards, and for around $60. the one on our 85 is no better or worse than what I see in the JY.

If it the waste gate as the problem, I guess it can be replaced. I haven`t seen them sold seperately.

Now back to the experts.

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