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Old 06-11-2011, 02:36 PM
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Would like to soften the ride of the front end of a w123.

1. change the shocks from HDs to comforts.
2. replace the lower control arm bushings.

Will this do it, or would I be missing something?
I think the shocks would help. What's wrong with the LCA bushings?

Have you thought about tyre sizes? What size tyres do you have at the moment?
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:41 PM
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Which W123?

Why don`t you fill out your signature? then you won`t have to be asked each time.


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Old 06-12-2011, 05:33 PM
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Which W123?

Why don`t you fill out your signature? then you won`t have to be asked each time.


Charlie
Ok will do but I am not retired so I have lots of other things to do.

My signature was up before, and it has been removed somehow. My 300cd 1981 has 14K miles on it when I bought it and I am assuming someone did not see the pictures that proved it and removed the signature.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:18 PM
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Ok will do but I am not retired so I have lots of other things to do.

My signature was up before, and it has been removed somehow. My 300cd 1981 has 14K miles on it when I bought it and I am assuming someone did not see the pictures that proved it and removed the signature.
You mentioned this 6 months ago on some other thread your info got removed. only a mod can do that. and at that time you were asked to show some pictures of this car, which didn`t show the total car,just some super close ups of various parts of it.

Only take a minute or two to fill out your signature.
every one is busy, and they have time to answer your questions. Iam retired now and have less time now that when I was working.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:19 PM
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[QUOTE=Army;2734289]Rear LCA? You mean the trailing arms right? So you are saying that the rear end is stiffer 'cos it has been renewed and now the ride quality seems uncomfortable?

Army, Yes lower trailing arm bushings in the rear were replaced with urethane and the movement up and down got better. And i put in comforts in and took the HDs out.

So now the rear end goes up and down slowly (good) and the front end rebounds too quickly. Front and rear not balanced (synchronized) in response to bump. front goes up and down quickly and rear floats down and floats up.

So I want to put in comforts in the front and replace the big lower bushing with Urethane or OEM rubber. Seems it would move better with urethane and if i put grease on it, it shouldn't squeek for a number of years.

Skippy, i do not understand the term jounce.

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Old 06-12-2011, 05:37 PM
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I think the shocks would help. What's wrong with the LCA bushings?

Have you thought about tyre sizes? What size tyres do you have at the moment?
I changed the rear lca with urethane bushings and the car has more movement now.

Since the lca bushings are mushroomed, i thinking there is a lot of friction that prevents free movement up and down.

I guessing that the lca is the most impt bushings that controls the up and down. Wondering if there is another.

The tires are 195 70 15 but will change to 205 50 16s. This is dictated by style not ride so concentrating on the suspensions and new shocks.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:45 PM
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I changed the rear lca with urethane bushings and the car has more movement now.

Since the lca bushings are mushroomed, i thinking there is a lot of friction that prevents free movement up and down.

I guessing that the lca is the most impt bushings that controls the up and down. Wondering if there is another.

The tires are 195 70 15 but will change to 205 50 16s. This is dictated by style not ride so concentrating on the suspensions and new shocks.
Rear LCA? You mean the trailing arms right? So you are saying that the rear end is stiffer 'cos it has been renewed and now the ride quality seems uncomfortable?

As for tyre sizes if you're going for narrow side walled fashionable looks you'll always end up with a more rigid ride than you would with a nice floppy 1980s high sidewall tyre...

...I'm sorry to report that comfort = unfashionable wheels and tyres.
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