According to my home-made clutch feeler gauge (gauge did not slide all the way through), I need a new clutch for my 240D. Online, it looks like most of the kits (or each component bought individually) costs somewhere between $250 and $350. I did find one place (********.com) where I can get one for around $150, which seems suspiciously cheap. Has anyone bought this kit in the past, or does anyone know if I even need to worry about it?

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1983 240D 3.0T 4-speed manual, now sold

1989 Subaru GL Wagon 5-speed Touring Edition

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1983 240D 3.0T 4-speed manual, now sold

1989 Subaru GL Wagon 5-speed Touring Edition

pm'd

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

I have not bought this kit, but other parts I have bought from ******** have been fine.

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1977 240D turbo

clutch feeler gauge?

Yeah, you gotta make it to fit through this groove in the gasket between the clutch slave and bell housing. If it slides through all the way, then you're clutch is still good. If it hits the fat part of the push rod, then the clutch should be replaced.

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1983 240D 3.0T 4-speed manual, now sold

1989 Subaru GL Wagon 5-speed Touring Edition

And another thing I noticed about the kits: they appear to have different dimensions, such as thickness, diameter and hub profile (don't know what that last one is). I'm gonna call both ******** and quinton hazell to see if I can get some answers there.

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1983 240D 3.0T 4-speed manual, now sold

1989 Subaru GL Wagon 5-speed Touring Edition

Clutch ' Go - No Go ' Gauge....

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Well why not use the old style method to know if the clutch is weak. If it slips it is on the way out. If they start to slip they never get better. The factory stealer store uses that guage to get ahead of the competition. Bet you can usually get three more years out of that clutch, more then that if you know how to manage it. It is not like a tire that blows and leaves you stranded, it will give you miles and miles of warning.

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Junqueyardjim
Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis



1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

I think you are talking about two different things....one the thickness of the clutch friction material ... which this measures just as ' ok or not ok'...and the condition of the springs... which ,while in the car, I do not know of any measurement test available ....

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

No not really, not different things. Weak springs will cause the clutch to slip, slipping will cost fast wear - usually the two parts wear out together. All I am saying is "forget the little tool" and enjoy the rather low cost hard working clutch. When it no longer performs, replace it. Two, three hundred Dollars for all that performance, pretty cheap.

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Junqueyardjim
Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis



1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

Yes, Really.... two different things...
While you use adjectives like ' usually' .. which makes it true...
it can also be that a car has 200,000 k miles on it and the springs are fine.. but the friction material wears out...independently ..and the rivets used to attach it... score the flywheel.....

The Result ....

Is that when replacing the clutch you wind up having to take the flywheel out and have it surfaced... as opposed to just being able to put in a new clutch plate and throwout bearing and keep on truckin..

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Yup, really should do that anyway. When mine needs a new clutch, I would most likely (usually)(probably)(but not certainly) have the flywheel resurfaced. I will probably go for some added weight on my flywheel at the same time as I think it could be a pretty simple machine shop operation. I think that anyone who runs it long enough that the rivets get into the flywheel maybe isn't a good candidate for a standard transmission. On the other hand, maybe they just don't care to much about their equipment. I try really hard to get a good feel, a good sense and to really listen to my car. I think it saves me a lot of money. Maybe I should go to the stealer and see if they can find that little clutch guage. I bet they will scratch their heads on that one. Maybe not!

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Junqueyardjim
Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis



1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

Ok.... what if I used 400,000 k miles as the example.... they would be considered a great candidate for a manual trans... but it could still just wear out the friction material..
Usually I would agree to SOP surfacing of the flywheel... people seem to have problems with things like bolts and such on these engines.. which could move the equation to having to remove the Engine... to deal with that.... so if it did not look scored I think I would rough it up with some sandpaper , inspect for heat marks and cracks...and put it back together if none of those were found...

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1980 240d ,

chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

Are you talking about the 6 little springs on the clutch Disc? they can break. I had the 2 larger ones (opposite each other) break after 22K miles.

I pulled a transmission out of a 300D last week, and the disc had the same 2 broken springs. disc was worn out, almost to the rivits.
This broken spring thing could be common.
I paid $148 for the disc last fall, now I see it is $185.



Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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