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NCfriend 07-05-2011 01:30 PM

w123 speedometer options
 
Hey folks, sorry but I was getting lost on my forum searches
so here is the question:

Can I use a 1984 300D turbo's speedometer on a 1983 240D?

First guess is it will be way off because of engine speeds and gear ratios...
Is there a simple way to adjust or conversion part to include and make this work close to accurate??

Please advise

kerry 07-05-2011 01:35 PM

Gear ratios will be different I think. Simplest solution is a gps.

panZZer 07-05-2011 01:37 PM

fulcrum converted his--read his thread.

charmalu 07-05-2011 03:01 PM

Yes you can use the 84 300d speedometer on your 83 240D. How ever it will not be accurate.

The 84 300D has a 3:07 Differential, and the 240D uses a 3:69 Diff. The MB Spedo is geared to the Diff. so either swap in the 3:07 diff, (which will be geared higher, or about 20%) or find another 240D spedo.

Charlie

NCfriend 07-05-2011 06:40 PM

Thanks for the explanations so far.
Very different gear ratios from the diff is what I expected, but..

#1) I can't find "Fulcrum's" thread about this conversion

#2) I thought I read a post long ago that referenced some website, where they sold something like a reducer or converter to plug in-line with the speedo cable and correct for speedometer-differential variations?

any directions on these, please

vstech 07-06-2011 09:59 AM

what's wrong with your original speedo?

martureo 07-06-2011 04:04 PM

Yes, you can convert it to run accurately. But it takes a bit of work and lots of patience.

There are three main things that must be changed from your original to the "new" one.

This worm gear and the brass spur gear it drives MUST be replaced with the originals from your 240D odo/speedo unit.
http://dieselgiant.com/mbodo21.JPG


You must also replace the speedo face, otherwise it will just display an inaccurate speed.
-Lift speedo needle off of rest and mark where it sits neutrally
-Remove speedo needle (two spoons method works well)
-Remove two screws
Installation is reverse. Just make sure to put the needle back on in a neutral (not sprung) position where you marked it.

(I cannabalized a 240D and a 300D n/a speedo to make a fully functional, zeroed odometer and accurate one for my 1984 300D turbo. And I found all the wrong ways to convert them.)

IVIuzzy 07-06-2011 11:05 PM

if u need one for a 240 let me know, i have a couple. the gearing is way off, probably more trouble than its worth to eff around with retro fitting a 300d one

charmalu 07-07-2011 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martureo (Post 2747653)
Yes, you can convert it to run accurately. But it takes a bit of work and lots of patience.

There are three main things that must be changed from your original to the "new" one.

This worm gear and the brass spur gear it drives MUST be replaced with the originals from your 240D odo/speedo unit.
http://dieselgiant.com/mbodo21.JPG


You must also replace the speedo face, otherwise it will just display an inaccurate speed.
-Lift speedo needle off of rest and mark where it sits neutrally
-Remove speedo needle (two spoons method works well)
-Remove two screws
Installation is reverse. Just make sure to put the needle back on in a neutral (not sprung) position where you marked it.

(I cannabalized a 240D and a 300D n/a speedo to make a fully functional, zeroed odometer and accurate one for my 1984 300D turbo. And I found all the wrong ways to convert them.)

Are pulling the brass gear off it`s shaft? or are you pulling the bushing off the other end and sliding the shaft out, and swaping in the new gear and shaft? Iam sure the Brass gear is on there pretty tight. I have pulled the bushing off, it comes off easy. I have had them tore down to the last nut and bolt when swapping in a different Differential and using the spedo from the doner car. then you need to adjust for the correct milage.

this is also a good time to fix the possible slipping potmetal gear.

Charlie

martureo 07-07-2011 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charmalu (Post 2747907)
Are pulling the brass gear off it`s shaft? or are you pulling the bushing off the other end and sliding the shaft out, and swaping in the new gear and shaft? Iam sure the Brass gear is on there pretty tight. I have pulled the bushing off, it comes off easy. I have had them tore down to the last nut and bolt when swapping in a different Differential and using the spedo from the doner car. then you need to adjust for the correct milage.

this is also a good time to fix the possible slipping potmetal gear.

Charlie

Oh yeah, that brass spur gear is on tight. The key is getting it off without bending the shaft. But it can be done. Or you can use the old spur gear on the shaft by removing it from the odo completely.

x2 on the potmetal gear

panZZer 07-07-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCfriend (Post 2747109)
Thanks for the explanations so far.
Very different gear ratios from the diff is what I expected, but..

#1) I can't find "Fulcrum's" thread about this conversion

#2) I thought I read a post long ago that referenced some website, where they sold something like a reducer or converter to plug in-line with the speedo cable and correct for speedometer-differential variations?

any directions on these, please

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/members/fulcrum525.html

vstech 07-08-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2747423)
what's wrong with your original speedo?

can we get an answer on this question?


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