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KenB 07-06-2011 02:57 AM

Wagon rear head rest question
 
I couldn't find this specific detail in the archives:

I am going to install rear head rests in my w123 wagon and I have the grommets for the place for them to rest out of the way in the seat *bottom* when the seat back is folded down for a flat expanded cargo area.

However, there are no rails for these or any other parts. My question is, is there an appropriate place to cut the upholstery? Is there a reason to remove the upholstery from the seat bottom to install these?

Thanks in advance,
KenB
1980 300TD

shadetreemechan 07-06-2011 07:55 AM

If the car did not come with rear headrests, the hardware is not in the seat to accept them. You can feel the holes in the foam of the seatback, but once you cut your upholstery you will find that the headrests just flop around in the seatback.
I know this from experience. I ended up pulling factory headrest seats from a junkyard after riding around with holes cut in the top of my middle seat for about a year.

vstech 07-06-2011 09:32 AM

chad has a write up on here somewhere... perhaps it's a link to another site where he installed the headrest hardware into the seats of a wagon...

KenB 07-06-2011 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadetreemechan (Post 2747355)
If the car did not come with rear headrests, the hardware is not in the seat to accept them. You can feel the holes in the foam of the seatback, but once you cut your upholstery you will find that the headrests just flop around in the seatback.
I know this from experience. I ended up pulling factory headrest seats from a junkyard after riding around with holes cut in the top of my middle seat for about a year.

Not sure you got my meaning (or maybe you did?): I am talking about the place to stow the head rests in the seat BOTTOM when they are not in use (removed from the seat back so as to fold the seat flat.)

If this is what you are talking about, then why is it so bad if they're a bit floppy?

If this is not what you meant, then I still am not sure what to do...

Chad's post was great but didn't address this issue.

KenB

dmorrison 07-06-2011 05:25 PM

The storage place for the headrests does not have any internal support for the shafts. So cut the wholes in the seat and install the "grommets".

For the normal installation. A kit was available years ago. I do not know if it is still available. Try a Mercedes dealer or the classic center. The receivers must be pop riveted in the seat frame and the grommets installed.

Dave

for the money I would buy these.

http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/twigapartsdirect/the-645/Mercedes-W123-S123-C123/Detail

KenB 07-06-2011 07:02 PM

Thank you! Done and looks fantastic.

KenB

shadetreemechan 07-06-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenB (Post 2747436)
Not sure you got my meaning (or maybe you did?): I am talking about the place to stow the head rests in the seat BOTTOM when they are not in use (removed from the seat back so as to fold the seat flat.)

If this is what you are talking about, then why is it so bad if they're a bit floppy?

If this is not what you meant, then I still am not sure what to do...

Chad's post was great but didn't address this issue.

KenB

Yep I misunderstood. Thought you were talking seat backs

StaggerLee 07-06-2011 10:52 PM

Show us a picture. I've always just put them in the garage.

KenB 07-07-2011 07:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StaggerLee (Post 2747849)
Show us a picture. I've always just put them in the garage.

Well, sure. That works too!

Anyone who has this set-up stock (whether it be 2 or 3 rear head rests), I'd be interested to hear how close I got to imitating it. I was just going by glimpses I had caught from pics on the internet.

ScooterABC 03-31-2012 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2747395)
chad has a write up on here somewhere... perhaps it's a link to another site where he installed the headrest hardware into the seats of a wagon...

I saw the write up sometime back and now I can't find it. Does anyone know where it is?

thanks.

vstech 03-31-2012 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterABC (Post 2912514)
I saw the write up sometime back and now I can't find it. Does anyone know where it is?

thanks.

upper search,
advanced search
username chad300tdt
keyword: head rest...
first response
BenzObsession.com • View topic - w123 Wagon - Adding Rear Headrests - DIY

ScooterABC 12-11-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2912540)
upper search,
advanced search
username chad300tdt
keyword: head rest...
first response
BenzObsession.com • View topic - w123 Wagon - Adding Rear Headrests - DIY

Link doesn't work.

vstech 12-11-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScooterABC (Post 3064348)
Link doesn't work.

true, but search still does...
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/277180-anyone-know-part-number-w123-td-headrest-frames.html
apparently he has deleted the other thread on the other forum that the buildup was on.

ScooterABC 12-11-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3064353)
true, but search still does...
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/277180-anyone-know-part-number-w123-td-headrest-frames.html
apparently he has deleted the other thread on the other forum that the buildup was on.

I had started to look up the part numbers for you before realizing that you already had a link to the part numbers.

I know the damn search works and it took me right to the dead link. Thank you so much!

Chad300tdt 12-11-2012 04:49 PM

The other site is down until the new owner can get a database issue resolved. Until it's fixed, all my DIYs there are offline. :(


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