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Old 07-06-2011, 02:57 AM
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Wagon rear head rest question

I couldn't find this specific detail in the archives:

I am going to install rear head rests in my w123 wagon and I have the grommets for the place for them to rest out of the way in the seat *bottom* when the seat back is folded down for a flat expanded cargo area.

However, there are no rails for these or any other parts. My question is, is there an appropriate place to cut the upholstery? Is there a reason to remove the upholstery from the seat bottom to install these?

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Old 07-06-2011, 07:55 AM
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If the car did not come with rear headrests, the hardware is not in the seat to accept them. You can feel the holes in the foam of the seatback, but once you cut your upholstery you will find that the headrests just flop around in the seatback.
I know this from experience. I ended up pulling factory headrest seats from a junkyard after riding around with holes cut in the top of my middle seat for about a year.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:32 AM
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chad has a write up on here somewhere... perhaps it's a link to another site where he installed the headrest hardware into the seats of a wagon...
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:21 AM
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If the car did not come with rear headrests, the hardware is not in the seat to accept them. You can feel the holes in the foam of the seatback, but once you cut your upholstery you will find that the headrests just flop around in the seatback.
I know this from experience. I ended up pulling factory headrest seats from a junkyard after riding around with holes cut in the top of my middle seat for about a year.
Not sure you got my meaning (or maybe you did?): I am talking about the place to stow the head rests in the seat BOTTOM when they are not in use (removed from the seat back so as to fold the seat flat.)

If this is what you are talking about, then why is it so bad if they're a bit floppy?

If this is not what you meant, then I still am not sure what to do...

Chad's post was great but didn't address this issue.

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Old 07-06-2011, 05:25 PM
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The storage place for the headrests does not have any internal support for the shafts. So cut the wholes in the seat and install the "grommets".

For the normal installation. A kit was available years ago. I do not know if it is still available. Try a Mercedes dealer or the classic center. The receivers must be pop riveted in the seat frame and the grommets installed.

Dave

for the money I would buy these.

http://store03.prostores.com/servlet/twigapartsdirect/the-645/Mercedes-W123-S123-C123/Detail
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Thank you! Done and looks fantastic.

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Not sure you got my meaning (or maybe you did?): I am talking about the place to stow the head rests in the seat BOTTOM when they are not in use (removed from the seat back so as to fold the seat flat.)

If this is what you are talking about, then why is it so bad if they're a bit floppy?

If this is not what you meant, then I still am not sure what to do...

Chad's post was great but didn't address this issue.

KenB
Yep I misunderstood. Thought you were talking seat backs
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Show us a picture. I've always just put them in the garage.
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:27 PM
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Show us a picture. I've always just put them in the garage.
Well, sure. That works too!

Anyone who has this set-up stock (whether it be 2 or 3 rear head rests), I'd be interested to hear how close I got to imitating it. I was just going by glimpses I had caught from pics on the internet.
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chad has a write up on here somewhere... perhaps it's a link to another site where he installed the headrest hardware into the seats of a wagon...
I saw the write up sometime back and now I can't find it. Does anyone know where it is?

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Old 03-31-2012, 11:48 PM
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I saw the write up sometime back and now I can't find it. Does anyone know where it is?

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keyword: head rest...
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BenzObsession.com • View topic - w123 Wagon - Adding Rear Headrests - DIY
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:21 PM
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Link doesn't work.
true, but search still does...
Anyone know the part number for w123 TD headrest frames?
apparently he has deleted the other thread on the other forum that the buildup was on.
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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

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1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

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true, but search still does...
Anyone know the part number for w123 TD headrest frames?
apparently he has deleted the other thread on the other forum that the buildup was on.
I had started to look up the part numbers for you before realizing that you already had a link to the part numbers.

I know the damn search works and it took me right to the dead link. Thank you so much!
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Old 12-11-2012, 04:49 PM
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The other site is down until the new owner can get a database issue resolved. Until it's fixed, all my DIYs there are offline.
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