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draaronr 08-15-2011 08:19 PM

is this temperature too high?
 
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81 300sd, just replaced the water pump as it was failing all else seems normal. temps were seemed to be climbing and I could hear the pump beginning to fail, but after change of pump it still seems kind of high, this is driving for 10 minutes and getting up to 75mph for 5 minutes. outside temperature is 90 and ac was on, thoughts ideas?

kerry 08-15-2011 08:23 PM

Did you burp the air out when you refilled the engine?

draaronr 08-15-2011 08:34 PM

yes sir, that's the first thing I thought so I double checked it.

tyl604 08-15-2011 08:39 PM

Yes, that's too high. My 81 SD always runs a little below the last white hash mark. Your is above the hash mark. Hint - it it gets so high that you are worried, turn the heater on high and it will cool down some; you can usually get home that way. Either heater or defroster - cannot quite remember but you get the idea.

draaronr 08-15-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tyl604 (Post 2771293)
Yes, that's too high. My 81 SD always runs a little below the last white hash mark. Your is above the hash mark. Hint - it it gets so high that you are worried, turn the heater on high and it will cool down some; you can usually get home that way. Either heater or defroster - cannot quite remember but you get the idea.

yeah tried that trick but didn't make much change, yeah it used to run a just like yours now it has climbed, oil still looks good not like it's mixed with coolant, coolant looks perfect, not sure if HG is starting to fail or what's up

tyl604 08-15-2011 08:49 PM

Maybe your thermostat is not opening quite right. I never figured out where the thermostat is when it needed replacing about ten years ago. Maybe someone can chime in and let us both know where it is and how much trouble it is to change it out.

draaronr 08-15-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tyl604 (Post 2771298)
Maybe your thermostat is not opening quite right.

well I should add, that if I am just driving around town even with the ac on, but keep it around say 35-45 she runs nice and cool, it's only when I get over 65 that it seems to climb.

otto huber 08-15-2011 08:57 PM

Poor radiator flow or worn out fan clutch is my guess. You could try running without a thermostat for a day and see what happens.
Turning on the heat is a good idea to bring the temp down if your frickin CCU is working right. I've been caught in bumper to bumper traffic twice with my temp close to yours and the heat wouldn't work. I almost got out of the car at one point to disconnect the mono valve.:mad:

tangofox007 08-15-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by otto huber (Post 2771308)
You could try running without a thermostat for a day and see what happens.

That's not a real good plan on an engine with a bypass thermostat. Unless you are willing to go to the trouble of blocking the bypass.

sixto 08-15-2011 09:12 PM

If you're willing to remove the thermostat, put in a new one and be done with it.

Sixto
87 300D

tyl604 08-15-2011 09:15 PM

Sixto - I agree but how about a few directions about how to find it and get it out. I looked briefly once years ago and could not really find it. Picture would be a great help.

sixto 08-15-2011 09:17 PM

This should help - http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/OM617WaterPumpBypassHose

Sixto
87 300D

ashedd 08-15-2011 09:18 PM

Don't forget that the thermostat can be installed backwards and it has to have the "arrow" up. But ya, the om617 can be temperamental temp wise. But once you get it figured out, it should sit at 80 all day and night. If that was a 603 I would be pooping my pants by now.

sixto 08-15-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ashedd (Post 2771337)
Of that was a 603 I would be pooping my pants by now.

I'd be looking for an S350 in need of a short block :)

Sixto
87 300D

tangofox007 08-15-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ashedd (Post 2771337)
But once you get it figured out, it should sit at 80 all day and night.

Considering that a properly operating thermostat only begins to open at 80 degrees and does not fully actuate until the coolant temp reaches 94 degrees, there is no basis for that claim.

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Originally Posted by ashedd (Post 2771337)
Don't forget that the thermostat can be installed backwards...

Given the design of the thermostat housing, that would be quite a feat.


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