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Perfectly starting 75 300 now silent
Well, my 75 300 which was starting nicely two days ago, now is silent. The battery is good, the accessories work, the headlights shine bright, but when I turn the key, the starter motor is silent. The glow plugs get hot, but no starter motor.
I have only worked on the headlights and changed a glow plug yesterday. so what gives? Is there a fuse for the starter motor? BTW, i have recently had problems with the ignition lock. Sometimes it refuses to turn and I have to use all my wrist strength to get it to turn. Then it works fine for 10 starts or so, then locks up again. Do I have to take off the dash to get the ignition lock out?
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No that familiar with the 115 but I doubt there is a fuse in the starter circuit. Have you tried jumping the starter? 123's have a junction box where you can jump the terminals and engage the starter. 116's have them too so I'm guessing that a 115 has one somewhere.
It probably has something to do with the failing ignition switch. Again, I'm not familar with the 115's but on a 123, you don't want to let a problem like that fester because it reaches a point where the key won't turn at all and replacing the ignition assembly becomes a giant PIA. Much easier to do while the key is still turning.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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HI Kerry, so how do i replace the key assembly? I took off the circlip but that didn't do anything. How do I get it out?
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Try starting it in Neutral, its prolly a bad NSS.
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I'm not familiar with the ignition assembly on a 115. Try a search. I doubt its the NSS if the key is having problems.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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once the key turns he said the glowplugs were working, but when he turns it the rest of the way nothing happens... sounds like it could be a bad NSS.
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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon 1979 280CE 225,200 miles 1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles 1976 240D 190,000 miles 1979 300TD 220,000 GONE but not forgotten 1976 300D 195,300 miles 1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg |
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He has other electrical problems with the car too.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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i understand that, but i would first try and start the motor with the tranny in N
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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon 1979 280CE 225,200 miles 1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles 1976 240D 190,000 miles 1979 300TD 220,000 GONE but not forgotten 1976 300D 195,300 miles 1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg |
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I would bet that the car will start when you put the shifter in neutral. If the sensor has not failed you may have lost the shifter bushings. |
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Hi Guys, yes I tried starting it with the shifter in neutral. The thing was starting fine and then today the starter motor is asleep.
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jump the small phillips head screw to the upper most 17mm nut on the starter, it should engage the starter...
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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon 1979 280CE 225,200 miles 1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles 1976 240D 190,000 miles 1979 300TD 220,000 GONE but not forgotten 1976 300D 195,300 miles 1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...e485-1-2-1.jpg |
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I jumped the screws as you said, and it got the starter motor to go.
Still, I discovered that my key is not the problem. It was just the steering wheel lock interfering with the key. So I don't know what the problem might be.
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