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1976 240D still not running...
I made a topic a couple of months ago when I busted my oil pan. Since then we have done many repairs and it still wont start. To refresh your memory, the oil pan busted on the highway and I shut the car off right away. I replaced the oil pan and checked out the oil pump/pickup, after the pan was on It would not start up. I was also have problems with the starter before this happened so I replaced that too. Im getting fuel to all 4 injector lines I'm running out of things to try and Im tired of it sitting, ill try anything give me ideas please.
Things I replaced: Oil pan/gasket Starter Fuel primer(new bosch style) Both fuel filters replaced Adjusted the valves(thought they may have tightened up from low oil pressure) The Battery checks out Glow plugs are getting hot(its over 100 degrees here anyways) Video of car cranking http://www.flickr.com/photos/46292365@N05/5837035508/ |
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That battery does sound weak. However, it also seems to be on the verge of starting. When I got my 300D started for the first time in 5 years, it sounded like that, too. I could see fuel at the injector ports, but still I had to crank the starter for up to 20 seconds at a time to get the fuel going. Here you gave up after a few seconds. The manual says it's okay to do so.
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Looking back at your old posts, a couple questions:
1. Are you getting any oil pressure when cranking? 2. Have you updated the glow plugs / wiring yet? I doubt #2 is the problem since it wasn't a problem immediately prior to the no start - #1 worries me. Otherwise, in the video of you cranking it, it sounds like it wants to start, you need to crank longer though. Hook up a battery charger to your battery and turn it on while cranking. Hit for 30 seconds at a time and then rest for a several minutes before trying again. You messed with the fuel system, so there is probably some air in there and it takes some cranking to get it out. I hope it is just a fuel issue. Didn't see anything more about your oil pressure in the previous post though. Good luck.
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Me and Tankowner are saying the same thing. You need to have a stronger battery because you need to keep cranking that thing to get the air out. So hook up your battery to a charger, build up some juice, and try again for at least 15 seconds. It took me about two attempts about 10-15 seconds in length to get it to fire. And then it fired for about 1 second and stopped. Then the next time, 3 seconds before stopping. Next time I got it going!
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Yes its getting oil pressure when cranking, I will try to crank it longer tomorrow
no I have updated to the pencil style plugs but they do get hot I try and get all the air out of the system |
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Check compression, when you lost oil pressure on the highway it could have cracked a piston and or ring.
Take the oil cap off while cranking, lots of air coming out? Its true your starter is turning pretty slow, however it seems fast enough to start a 616 in warmer temps.
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ill see if air is coming out while cranking tomorrow as well
thanks for the advice so far |
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Seems to be cranking slow. Charge the battery and then jump it also and see if it kicks off.
Have you checked voltage to the glowplugs? Have you checked the resistance of the glow plugs? I would do both. What's the orange tubular thing in the engine compartment?
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block heater
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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its over 100 degrees here in Texas
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So the block heater will raise the temperature of the block to 100+ degrees.
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I will give it a try then
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As someone who has mucked with the fuel system and then had starting issues, and also someone who was smart enough run out of fuel, I know what a pain in the arse these can be start up again. You can easily drain a battery trying to prime the fuel system again. If you don't have enough juice, it won't turn fast enough to fire. Use the charger. IF the battery is charged and if you have the charger on while cranking, then seriously let it crank for 30 seconds. It will seem like forever, but if it doesn't start the first time, just let it cool a good while so as to not burn up your starter. If you get any sign of life, just keep cranking.
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'95 E300D ("Tank") - 231,000 miles '79 240D ("Biscuit") - 197,250 miles (Sold) '83 240D ("Ding-Ding") - 217,000 miles (Death by deer) ______________________________________ "Back off, man. I’m a scientist” ~ Peter Venkman |
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I'd spray wd40 into the intake to be sure it has fuel. Also hook up jumper cables to be sure you are cranking as much as possible.
(There is something seriously wrong with your suspension, dude!)
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