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Old 08-31-2011, 10:41 PM
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Alright guys time to diagnose so I disconnected the kick down switch and there was no difference.
Then I did the following:
Disconnected the Bowden rod at the valve cover no throttle lol then took a closer look with the air filter housing off. I found that that the Bowden cable is attached to the other side of the throttle linkage that needs to remain intact. So with the Bowden cable disconnected, the car shifted really nicely under normal acceleration. If I put the pedal to the floor, between shifts it would flair till I let off.

Ath this point based on the comments above' should I shorted the Bowden cable and "tune" till suitable for me?

Thanks again for the great input

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Old 08-31-2011, 11:53 PM
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Leave the bowden cable disconnected and unhook the vacuum to the modulator. If this stiffens up the shift and gets rid of the flare, then reconnect and adjust the bowden cable and monitor the vacuum levels to the modulator at various throttle positions and report back the results.
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Old 09-01-2011, 01:24 AM
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My trans does not have a vacuum modulator. It is all electronic.... Major surprise upon my inspection. I'll adjust the Bowden rod in the am and report back
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Old 09-01-2011, 01:52 AM
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Should be on the passenger side rear.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:47 AM
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My trans does not have a vacuum modulator. It is all electronic.... Major surprise upon my inspection. I'll adjust the Bowden rod in the am and report back
So you are saying you have a 722.118 with a "Bowden rod"? (Terrible expression but I must go with the flow!)

Would you take a photograph of that for me please?
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:56 AM
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You may have a mechanical modulator like the one circled in this pic.
You can unscrew the end and inside is a screw to adjust firmness of shifts.
Screw in to firm up shifts. No vacuum to worry about. Bonus
The transmission rod is for adjusting shift points.
Longer to shift earlier, Shorter to shift later.
or is it the other way around, can't remember.


79 300D upshifting problem-722.118.jpg
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:16 PM
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That's exactly what mine looks like. I'll adjust the shift rod and let yall know how it goes.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:33 PM
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What the ?????

Subiracer06 and Merc 1979...

I'm back!

Are you guys certain you've got 722.118s?

I'm trying to get a load of information about transmissions that were fitted to diesel engines and I thought the 722.118 didn't have the rod connection to the throttle.

In the picture I posted previously the transmission in the fore ground is a 722.120

and the .118 is behind it...



But if you're saying that you've got .118s that have the rod connection like this one (see the bit sticking out just above the kick down solenoid to the right of the smaller brake band piston cover)



Then - well - ermmmm - I don't know what to say!
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Old 09-01-2011, 08:57 PM
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Yes definitely 722.118. On a 03/1979 300D W123.130 N/A sedan with rear SLS.
Transmission number 722118-02-047131
It has the transmission to throttle rod, and non-vacuum modulator.
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Old 09-01-2011, 10:33 PM
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Alright!!! Success))

Started out by adjusting the shift rod tighter, and it made it shift way too high Rpms. Next tried a drastic change of lengthening it 1.5 times what it was. Ended up shifting perfectly for me! Thank u for all the input u guys have given me.

After I adjusted the the cable today, I changed the water pump, thermostat, hose under the thermostat, fuel filter, fuel pre filter, air filter, and power steering pump O-ring. Thing runs like a champ now!!!!

Very good
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:00 AM
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Army
Yes definitely 722.118. On a 03/1979 300D W123.130 N/A sedan with rear SLS.
Transmission number 722118-02-047131
It has the transmission to throttle rod, and non-vacuum modulator.
cheers
Thanks for getting back with that...

Like I said - I don't know what to say!
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:46 AM
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Since my phone will not cooperate with copy/paste of the URL....
The exact serial is 722 118 123 270 0701038990
Once I get on my pc I'll post the pic
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Old 09-02-2011, 03:28 PM
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Thanks very much for your help with the information.

I think 1980 was the magic year when the 722.118 changed... if I get to the bottom of this I'll post back here.

@subiracer06 - I'm glad to see you've fixed the problem

I'm sorry not to have posted this link before - I got a bit rapped up in the shock of hearing about a 722.118 with a rod - here's some shift point data for you

Has anyone got 722.XXX diesel engined transmission shift point data?

Follow the link in this thread to a whole load of information on benzworld...
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Old 09-02-2011, 09:42 PM
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Another thing to check on these transmissions is the bushing on the transmission rod.(circled in pic) The one on my vehicle had completely disintegrated and was missing. This caused it to shift way too early.
Glad to hear you got yours sorted.
79 300D upshifting problem-second-hand-transmissions1.jpg
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:39 PM
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alright so i may have found another issue. just for verification, i double checked the trans oil level the other day when it was cold, and found that the oil is double the heighth of the full level. the previous owner had said that he just had the oil chaged..... the oil was red and looked new, but this was rather alarming. i will check it again when it is warm, but what kind of levels should i be expecting when the trans is cold?

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