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looking at gasser W124s
Im pondering over getting another late W124 - gasser this time. I recently drove an E320 (1995) and that car was really fun, smooth, quiet and angry too - comparing to my leisurely E300D - which is slow off the line.
Am I making a mistake, because Ive heard that the W124 M104 HFI combination is great if the wiring harness was replaced. What are real mpg figures for this. Or should I be looking at W210s
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Grumpy Old Diesel Owners Club group I no longer question authority, I annoy authority. More effect, less effort.... 1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket. 1980 300D now parts car 800k miles 1984 300D 500k miles 1987 250td 160k miles English import 2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles 1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo. 1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion. Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving |
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Trying the avoid the HERETIC and APOSTATE issues here:
I've never liked any of the W124's I've driven, but all of them seem to have been beaten down by their previous (and current) owners. I drove a 210 once and I actually did like it quite a bit, though that doesn't make me ready to run out and buy one. Edit: I forgot TRAITOR, TURNCOAT, and INFIDEL
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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar. 83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles 08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles 88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress. |
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Im not drifting away from the diesel. I like it - just needed another car in the house - so though that a gasser would do. Not many good condition diesel W124s around - and nearly all W210 diesels I see are in need of major work. I nearly sealed the deal on a 99 E300DT but a PPI showed me the issues the car had one of which was a cobbled glow plug job.
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The 6-cylinder gas engine in the W124 chassis should be OK with the usual caveats on previous care. Most of the ones I've seen in the junkyard have gotten to over 200,000 miles but they will require serious maintenance sooner than the diesel, of course. Fuel economy is around 18 mpg, I believe, and gasser 124s come with a larger fuel tank for that reason. Premium fuel is required. The V-8 engines are more powerful and less fuel efficient and take up more room in the engine bay; the I-6 is a lot easier to work on and around. Wiring harness deterioration should be the same, year for year, in all of the models, gas or diesel. Gassers will require smog certificates, which may be a problem and/or an expense depending on the rules in Texas and the condition of the engine and smog devices. Asking the seller to have the car pass smog before you buy it might be worthwhile.
Religious issues aside, I see no reason not to buy a gasser 124 if you can find a low-mileage copy (100,000 or so) that has been well taken care of. As with all used cars, look for a complete set of service records and beware cars that have had multiple later owners who skimp on maintenance. Jeremy
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"Buster" in the '95 Our all-Diesel family 1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car 2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022) Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762 "Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz." -- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970 |
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