Diesel fuel $0.70 more than unleaded?? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

TheDon · #16 11-05-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by toomany MBZ

I recall, many years ago, diesel was always lower than any gas.

Just showing my age I guess.

No you're not. I can recall when diesel was cheaper.

pawoSD · #17 11-05-2011, 10:02 AM

I can remember filling my 300SD completely for about $17....when diesel was 94 CENTS a gallon.....

reddog · #18 11-05-2011, 10:27 AM

In 1968 I bought diesel for my truck in Chicago from a local delivery for .17 a gallon. Just up the street at a service station it was .229. Just across the New Jersey line it also was .229. Where is all that money going at 4.00 a gallon?

strelnik · #19 11-05-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by reddog

In 1968 I bought diesel for my truck in Chicago from a local delivery for .17 a gallon. Just up the street at a service station it was .229. Just across the New Jersey line it also was .229. Where is all that money going at 4.00 a gallon?

RUG goes for anywhere from 3.17/gallon to 3.45/gallon.

Diesel is going for 3.55/gallon to 4.29/gallon.

I don't understand this spread, it makes no sense, unless gas stations are trying to "enhance" their profits.

BP stations are sometimes high, sometimes low, so it doesn't seem to depend on the brand.

Maybe the middleman?

Rooster300SD · #20 11-05-2011, 10:51 AM

Gasoline tax information - California Gas Prices

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Originally Posted by NoSparkNeeded

Don't know if this is true, but I think I recall at least in CA that diesel is taxed way more than gasoline

Tax in CA is .35 for gas and .18 for diesel and prices vary by state.
Added to both fuels is .15 in "other taxes."
Chart in the link shows all the state taxes.

Jeff

junqueyardjim · #21 11-05-2011, 10:52 AM

Could it depend on supply? There is really only one market for gasoline, the internal combustion engine. Those engines require a lot of fuel, but when compared to diesel, which fuels the other half of the internal combustion engine, plus all the heating fuel, plus all the jet fuels, I think the squeeze is on "fuel" more then gas.

jab0028 · #22 11-05-2011, 11:05 AM

RUG is currently $3.09 and diesel #2 is $3.79 in Fort Worth, TX. A few weeks ago the two were about equal in price then gas fell and diesel rose.

Carpenterman · #23 11-05-2011, 11:09 AM

I understand that ULSD is more expensive than the old diesel to refine, but my opinion about the spread between it and RUG has more to do with public relations/politics than anything else. There are a lot more voices to scream bloody murder about high prices with RUG than there are with diesel. Who cares about wierdos like us and the commercial users.

Codifex Maximus · #24 11-05-2011, 12:00 PM

They're cracking diesel to make gas.

MBDFahrer · #25 11-05-2011, 12:02 PM

Here in Austin, RUG is $3.13-$3.17. The cheapest diesel I found was $3.59, otherwise $3.72-$3.78

Scorch · #26 11-05-2011, 12:10 PM

I remember diesel being cheaper than gas too. I filled up in NC this week @ 3.64 gal. Premium gas is about the same as diesel here. Of course I can always head into SC and get a .20 gal break as their fuel tax is lower. I'd always thought that the refining process for diesel was far simpler than for gas. I guess they have evened it up.

buffa98 · #27 11-05-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwpowere36m3

Don't know about the rest of the US, but diesel has always been more expense than unleaded (even premium at times)...

Not until the sulpher content was reduced did the prices get so far apart. Mid 90s I think is when the first cut of sulpher was down to 500ppm. that is when the prices started to climb because of the added steps in the refining process.

psaboic · #28 11-05-2011, 01:38 PM

I always shake my head in amusement when people tell me they are glad they don't have a diesel and they could care less about the cost of diesel fuel. I tell them the oil companies are laughing at them.....all the way to the bank. My theory is this.... People scream bloody murder when gas prices are high, so the oil companies say "ok, lets lower gas prices a bit to shut them up and raise Diesel prices to make up for it. Ergo, nobody will complain much about Diesel prices. All the while, EVERYONE is now paying for it, as trucking companies pay more for fuel, and they pass on the added cost to the stores. The stores pay more for shipped goods, so they pass on that cost to the consumer. Last time I looked nearly everything in the US is moved at one point or another by truck (diesel truck that is)

Therefore I tell everyone stop *****ing when gas prices go up, you should be raising holy hell when diesel prices go up, because that is going to affect EVERYONE. And since people are quiet about it because "They do not drive a diesel car/truck" the oil companies are laughing all the way to the bank

lietuviai · #29 11-05-2011, 05:31 PM

I have done something about it. I run WVO and have so for a very long time with no issues. I give the oil companies a big middled finger salute every time I drive my WVO powered MB.

dcotejr · #30 11-05-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmcphee

diesels have 30% better volumetric efficiency over gassers, so you're still ahead when gas is $3 and diesel is anything less than $4 roughly speaking

If my memory serves me correctly, diesel is about 11% more dense that gasoline. How does that translate into 30% better volumetric efficiency? I learn something new every day, and hopin' I can learn something...