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barry123400 11-07-2011 04:09 PM

The pre start trickle charge possibly just basically helps the battery to deliver more current when it is time to start. Kind of agitates the battery electroylite a little perhaps. Simular to pre warming a battery a little maybe. . THe slight top off charge does no harm either.

barry123400 11-07-2011 04:12 PM

The pre start trickle charge possibly just basically helps the battery to deliver more current when it is time to start. Kind of agitates the battery electroylite a little perhaps.

A stone cold batery is way down in ability to deliver current compared to a warmer one.

chronometers 11-07-2011 04:28 PM

I connected my block heater using this cord...
 
My vehicle had a factory installed block heater. I purchased a cord on Amazon (see link below) and was able to install the cord from above. I tied off per other members suggestions and terminated the cord at the hatch under the bumper. Starting is much easier 45F or below. I connect to an external AC receptacle which has an internal switch in my house. I turn the switch on about 3 hours before I anticipate traveling.

I bought the cord on amazon for $14.49 and it was listed as a "Fleetguard Coolant Immersion Heater 6' Replacement cord 120V 251919":

Block heater power cord

It was a perfect fit for the factory plug and threads :)

Jeremy5848 11-07-2011 05:33 PM

A trickle charger left on a battery 24/7 will eventually dry out the electrolyte but 4 to 8 hours a day while the block heater is running on cold winter nights won't hurt the battery at all. And as others have posted, a warm and fully charged battery makes a great deal of difference in starting a diesel. In really cold climates (north of Winnipeg, say) the trickle charger helps keep the battery from freezing. This relatively rare situation typically cracks the plastic case and then the electrolyte leaks out all over the car's chassis.

Because my car has about 30 milliamps of "phantom load" (not really phantom because I know what it is and want it to be there) I have a trickle charger built in to the engine compartment and plug it into a timed outlet almost every night. The charger runs for only two hours but that's enough to keep the load from gradually discharging the battery, especially as this car isn't driven every day. [10 milliamps of discharge current is generally considered the safe limit.]

Jeremy

charmalu 11-07-2011 10:43 PM

I installed one in our 85 about 2003, they really do help to get things up to operating temp when cold. I had a shop do it after looking at the difficulty it would have been for me at the time. this was before I discovered the Forum. on an older engine, I still might pay some one to do it.

When I purchased the Metric Motor, I had them install one. they threw it in with the price of the engine. "That was easy". :D

Charlie

piccolovic 11-07-2011 11:36 PM

Seems that every year I've belonged to this forum, the subject comes up. I printed out previous threads, and brought an after-market block heater (plaices into the radiator hose) to the mechanic recommended to me in the Fargo, ND area that I found myself and car located at for the upcoming winter. After calling AAA twice in one week, I was determined to block heat my engine. I showed the mechanics what other MBZ owners said about the installation. They did not believe that even in a car as old as mine, they would need to use a torch and get the bolt red-hot to remove it. They insisted on installing an OEM block heater, which was fine with me, as long as they gave me a written estimate of the work. They were not happy to see me the next day. Seems that even with four lumberjack swedes hanging off a cheater bar with the car on the rack . . . they could not break that bolt loose (guess they never heard of "zincing." Hey . . . but what do I know . . . am just a woman and a dumb truck-driver . . . LOL.

Unless you have a torch to loosen that bolt, take it to a mechanic and have them install it, and warn them to get the torch out to START the job. ROFL

piccolovic 11-07-2011 11:39 PM

BTW, mine block heater was a life-saver, literally. Gave longer life to my glow plugs and battery, and the car had no trouble starting up in the -40 deg. F weather, if it had been plugged in overnight.

kerry 11-07-2011 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biodiesel300TD (Post 2823982)
They are nice to have on those cold mornings. I have a lower radiator hose heater in my 240, it was free and convenient. It helps but it's not as good as a real block heater. Also getting the freeze plugs out of the block and be REALLY hard, so a lower radiator hose heater is easier to install.

X2

MeinGreaseCar 11-08-2011 08:15 AM

overkill
 
here's my winter prep thread from a while back.

overkill to the extreme.. but it was fun. works great.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/167546-ultimate-artic-mb300sd-pictures.html

Hip001 11-08-2011 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biodiesel300TD (Post 2824019)
Quite clever.
Is there any downside to trickle charging a battery constantly?

My understanding is alot of the name brand("Battery Tender" for example) chargers are considered smart chargers, which charges untill the battery is full then switches into a monitor mode only charging if it drops again.
I have a little Battery Tender for the motorcycles. I use it on the truck and the Mercedes if i let them sit. Wiring one into the heater plug is a great idea!! I don't have the experiance with brutal cold like you guys up north but seems like a awesome idea! And these darn diesel batteries are not cheap!!!

Edgeofthewoods 11-08-2011 06:14 PM

My 240 is.one of those that did not have a factory block heater. I didn't want to take the chance with the potential block issues and a huge lack time. I installed a Katz k500 hose heater. So.far it is a big difference in how it starts. Not quite like it Is 80 degs, but one glow cycle and she fires up.

vstech 11-08-2011 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeinGreaseCar (Post 2824347)
here's my winter prep thread from a while back.

overkill to the extreme.. but it was fun. works great.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/167546-ultimate-artic-mb300sd-pictures.html

it'd be nice if the pictures were still in the thread...
any chance you could upload them to the PP server?

1980sd 11-09-2011 02:21 PM

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MeinGreaseCar 11-09-2011 09:36 PM

pics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 2824663)
it'd be nice if the pictures were still in the thread...
any chance you could upload them to the PP server?



I'll try to grab a few tomorrow morning.

I'm gonna sell the car in the spring. but I'm gonna pull the espar first.

JP


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