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Notice that the Mongolians seem to be smart enough to have the flame under the radiator and not under the oily engine.
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Experience is a lesson hard taught i'm sure (Do old Soviet trucks even have glow plugs??)
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had the boom on the zoom boom i use at work completely rebuilt this winter. during a big cold snap back in january... -20*C with 25 mph or so winds, damn near record temperatures. only happened a couple of times here in my lifetime, anyway....
had one of these (30-80,000 BTU convection propane heater) under this right in front of the rear wheel to heat up the reservoir for the hydraulic fluid since the thing was giving us all kinds of trouble once we got the boom up high enough to put the trusses into the building... my coworker and a "superior", after we had JUST put the heater under it, knowingly drove forward and crushed the heater... open flame can be a risk, but i figure a pan full of charcoal briquettes would damn near be the ticket if you needed to heat up the fluids and the block. with its irrationality, constant-shortcomings and unreliability... the climate control on my w126 definitely drives me crazy.
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Older gent I knew years back had an ancient Oliver crawler / dozer. He used it to clear his private road and haul logs out all winter. His cold start solution was, to put it mildly, unique. He clamped a 6" electric stove element to the bottom of the oil pan, and plugged it in for 10 or 15 minutes. It smoked and smelled bad, but it would start at 40 below.
I do not know how old it was, ( he was 70, and the Oliver might have been the same age), but he told me that it was one of the first diesel dozers of its size that used an integral starter rather than a gas pony engine to start.
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Ive never used a hair dryer to start a diesel but I did use one once to dry up my spark plug wires so I could start my van. It worked too.
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I once heated the oil pan on my 617 with a propane torch in the winter to get it starter. Took forever laying under the car!
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going back to the original post i have seen this first hand in Afghanistan and i have seen it work both wonderfully and when thing go wrong...lol most of the time they are starting the fire under the engine then move it to the radiator, but when they get in to much of a hurry they build the fire to big and well you guessed it the engine catches fire or the hoses and wires...lol then the real magic starts when they put the fire out and proceed to fix it with rags bailing wire and what ever else is near by on the ground, and start it...
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I'm seriously mlooking for a 4-99 or a 4-108 Perkins, are there any where you are? Preference is for the 4-99
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Some old Soviet trucks have "block heaters" that operate by connecting to a hose in the heater system that circulates hot coolant through them. It's a system where the coolant is heated in a tank below, and a manual crank is turned to pump/circulate the heated fluid until enough heat is transferred to the block to start the engine. At the same time, a pan of charcoal is lit and out under the oil pan. It's quite a contraption. I got a picture someplace. In the case of diesel tanks, they are just started and run 15-20 min out of every hour. At least, the T-55 and T-62 models were.
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Whoa Whoa ! No comments on a Diesel in an old Chevy Vega ? Now that I would like to see.
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Not that I know of. Most 80's Wanderlodge generators were powered by the 4-108. I would think a fair number of those would still be around. Sailboats also had the 4-108.
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Perkins, Waukesha, Deutz
I've got a Perkins AD3-152 if anyone is interested. It's currently hooked up to a Lincoln Welder
I also have a Waukesha 4 cylinder connected to generator head. And a Deutz 4 cylinder; pretty sure it is a F4L912 with a brand new starter on it. Now what can I put that into? This also has a water pump, flywheel, clutch assembly, etc. Oh.....oh....oh.....and since we seem to be WAY off topic; how about this Detroit 4-71 coming to life??? Music to my ears!!! Click on the pic below for the short video.
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Hair dryer right into the intake....
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.....air cleaner off. We tried this on a very cold morning after installing glow plugs in a 240D... wouldn't start, low compression, plenty blow-by. Figured the cylinders to be rather soaked with diesel. So we tried it... about 5 minutes at 15F, a couple of short cranks here and there to hopefully heat other cylinders. After about 5 minutes, started the earnest cranking. Started to fire, one, two, then all cylinders, shaky, but got it warmed up and she was fine after that. The next morning the new glow plugs had no problem starting the engine. The idea of heating I assume is to increase the temperature of the combustion chamber. This is the focus-this is what you are trying to do when you glow the plugs. So I figured that pre-heating the intake air would at least bring the combustion chamber up to around 85F...like a nice sunny day. It worked. I wouldn't hesitate to do it again- whether for very cold starting issues, or an engine that has sat a long time. This method introduces no possibility of explosion, nor chemicals that may alter the crankcase lube oil (as in thinning it out). Another plus- if you can't get it to start right away, you don't have to deal with a couple extra cc's of whatever magic starting aid you may sprayed in there. This was in addition to a portable hot plate under the oil pan. When the dipstick oil is lukewarm, it's time to start cranking. snapped_bolt |
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Around here, we used to pry off a hubcap, bring it in the house and fill it with hot coals from the woodstove, and shove that under the oil pan.
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I helped whunter do that with his recalcitrant Ford diesel.
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