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Old 03-17-2012, 11:34 PM
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Stuck Valve Cover Nut

Never tightening the nuts on the valve cover again without a torque wrench...

I'm just hoping that only the nut is stripped, which is what it looks like.

The nut is stuck on but moving freely, just won't move up or down.

Two questions:
1. Suggestions for nut removal?
Is a nut splitter really necessary? The only place I can find where I can get to nearby that seems to have one is Ace Hardware and there's a bad review saying that theirs broke right the first time they tried to use it.
Though about trying to use a dremel with a cutting disc and being veeerrry careful not to go all the way through the nut but then if I go too far I'm in an even worse situation...

2. What size nut should I replace it with?
Read in one post that the threads are 8mmx1.25 (and obvi the 13mm head). Is this correct?

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Old 03-17-2012, 11:37 PM
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Actually the Ace may not even have it. And it's $30 for a tool that I'm hoping I won't need again
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:48 PM
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This has happend before and there should be some removal methods in some threads.

I cannot remember the details;

You can unscrew the whole Stud.

You can get something like a Screwdriver under the Nut lever up on the Nut and slowly turn it out..
With more care a Screwdriver could but stuck between the Valve Cover and the Head and used to put upward pressure under the nut as you slowly turn it.
Often the upward pressure allows the Nut to turn off.
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:33 AM
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Be careful with the surface of the rocker cover - one slip now and your eye will be drawn to the damage every time you look at the engine.

Have you tried long nosed grips and pulling upwards?

Sometimes - with patience - it works.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:22 AM
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Dremil type of tool on the side of the nut. Then bend it so it comes off. The stud is probably stripped any way. Replace both nut & stud.

Some times gripping the nut with vice grips will let you get the stud to unscrew from the head.
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Old 03-18-2012, 05:54 AM
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Have you tried long nosed grips and pulling upwards?
Yes
Will try again with my needle nose vise grips. Can't imagine a flathead would be any better.
Maybe a little bit of heat...

Reeeally hoping the stud isn't stripped.
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Old 03-18-2012, 08:04 AM
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Will try again with my needle nose vise grips. Can't imagine a flathead would be any better.
Maybe a little bit of heat...

Reeeally hoping the stud isn't stripped.
Hmmmm, Heat is unlikely to help. If you plan on re-using the stud, best run a thread die over it. Its not a big deal to replace it.
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Reeeally hoping the stud isn't stripped.
You'd have better odds in winning the lottery.
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1. Suggestions for nut removal?

SPEED! Lower torque power socket. RPMs up, nut OFF!

Im not sure about the access room youre working with here...while it spins try an coax it up with the plyers or a flat head or something.
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and another thing

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You can unscrew the whole Stud.
If that doesn't do it then don't worry too much.
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:16 PM
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SPEED! Lower torque power socket. RPMs up, nut OFF!

Im not sure about the access room youre working with here...while it spins try an coax it up with the plyers or a flat head or something.
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:35 PM
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If there is about 4 good threads above the Nut you can make the Stud Puller shown in the picture.

You Screw the Metric Rod Coupling over the Stud and then screw a Bolt into the Rod Coupling and tighten but not over tighten.
Put the Wrench on the Rod Coupling Body and hope the Stud will turn out.

The Sell Stud Pullers that work the same way but they do not work well on Studs that are really stuck; like rusted studs would be.

If you use the Dremel type tool to cut through the nut you can put a screwdriver into the cut and twist the Screwdriver to spread the Nut out.
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Harbor Freight sells little diamond coated Rotary Bits. If there is enough room for a small Drill Motor one of them could be used to grind through the Nut.
However, the Diamond Coating is pretty fine and it will take a while to grind through.
Harbor Freight also sells Tiny little Diamond cutting Disc sets that go on a supplied 1/8th inch Shank holder.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:22 PM
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Spoke too soon. Flathead worked, the bolt is extremely stripped. Darn.

Now I just have to hope that this Mercedes shop around the corner with parts cars in its lot will sell me a bolt tomorrow morning!
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:29 PM
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Spoke too soon. Flathead worked, the bolt is extremely stripped. Darn.

Now I just have to hope that this Mercedes shop around the corner with parts cars in its lot will sell me a bolt tomorrow morning!
What is it you are calling a FlatHead? My best guess is it is a Screwdriver?

Here in CA the local Ace Hardware sells the smaller Metric Studs.

If the Stud is out you could also simply use a proper length Bolt and Washer. The local Home Depot sells some Metric Bolts. I am less sure that the sell Metric Studs.
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Old 03-19-2012, 02:20 PM
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If the Stud is out you could also simply use a proper length Bolt and Washer. The local Home Depot sells some Metric Bolts. I am less sure that the sell Metric Studs.
Haven't taken the stud out yet. Was about to go do that. How could I use a bolt instead of a stud??
What size stud would I need? I am in Oakland and very close to both a Home Depot and an Ace Hardware.

Also, what is the torque spec for the nuts? 15nm is coming to my brain...

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