Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-18-2012, 12:31 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 100
Uro tie rod end dead in 3 days.

My 124 300d had a loose drag link and I decided to replace the tie rod assemblies, damper and freshen up the idler arm while I was in there. The ball joints and lower control arm bushings were replaced a couple of months ago.

I started hearing a little knock when I hit bumps yesterday so I made sure to give things a once-over while replacing the tires today thinking I may have left something loose. Sure enough, the LH front tire had a lot of play. The LH inner tie rod end was shot. Way shot. There's at least .25" lateral movement in the joint. You get what you pay for.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-18-2012, 12:47 PM
toomany MBZ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: central Va
Posts: 7,820
Sorry to hear it.
__________________
83 SD

84 CD
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-18-2012, 01:08 PM
ps2cho's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chandler, Arizona
Posts: 3,525
URO = NO-NO
__________________
2016 Monsoon Gray Audi Allroad - 21k
2008 Black Mercedes E350 4Matic Sport - 131k
2014 Jeep Wranger Unlimited Sahara - 62k
2003 Gray Mercedes ML350 - 122k
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-18-2012, 01:13 PM
Admiral-Third World Fleet
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Central FL
Posts: 3,069
Uro = urine

they are trying to kill us, one by one....
__________________
80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-18-2012, 01:36 PM
cefalu's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 71
A lot of the BMW message boards are posting problems with the URO parts too. It's not just the MBZ replacement parts
__________________

1974 280C MBZ
1995 BMW 840 Ci
1999 996 Cabriolet Porsche
2005 Toyota 4Runner
1974 VW Westfalia camper P27
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-18-2012, 01:50 PM
Stretch's Avatar
...like a shield of steel
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands
Posts: 14,461
That's a pretty spectacular result in a short space of time.

When you remove it and replace it I'd be interested to see pictures of the inside parts or even to know if they put any grease in it.
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-18-2012, 03:26 PM
TnBob's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Shelbyville, Tn
Posts: 1,907
2x on Army Im getting ready to do my front end.
__________________
1985 300D 198K sold
1982 300D 202K
1989 300E 125K
1992 940T

"If you dont have time to do it safely, you dont have time to do it"

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-18-2012, 03:45 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 5,135
URO flex discs turned my nice 91 560SEL into a parts car. They really do sell junk.
__________________
With best regards

Al
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-18-2012, 04:12 PM
Stretch's Avatar
...like a shield of steel
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands
Posts: 14,461
Quote:
Originally Posted by alabbasi View Post
URO flex discs turned my nice 91 560SEL into a parts car. They really do sell junk.
Please expand on this - I must have missed the story.
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-18-2012, 05:19 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 100
I took the part off and gave it a close look. There's no dramatic carnage to see, really nothing to see at all. The ball is tight in the plastic socket and it requires a healthy amount of force to make the socket articulate. The problem is that the plastic socket was not crimped tightly enough in the tie rod end metal housing so the whole socket, plastic and all slides back and forth.

I'm going to chock this up the lessons learned, contact the vendor to let them know of the problem, then replace both tie rod assemblies with better stuff. This is a low drama situation for a guy who does his own alignments. I'd be upset if I were paying someone else to do it.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-18-2012, 05:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 7,534
While in no way defending substandard parts, after reassembly were you sure the tie rod assembly could be rotated? I've seen parts replaced , toe set and the tie rods were bound causing failures. ( Inner tie rod rotated in one direction and outer in the other then the adjusting sleeve tightened. )
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-18-2012, 05:40 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 5,135
Quote:
Originally Posted by Army View Post
Please expand on this - I must have missed the story.
Here; URO flex disc warning - Benzworld.org - Mercedes-Benz Discussion Forum
__________________
With best regards

Al
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-18-2012, 07:25 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 100
Quote:
Originally Posted by 97 SL320 View Post
While in no way defending substandard parts, after reassembly were you sure the tie rod assembly could be rotated? I've seen parts replaced , toe set and the tie rods were bound causing failures. ( Inner tie rod rotated in one direction and outer in the other then the adjusting sleeve tightened. )
Great question. A noob could totally screw up that part. I made that mistake a long time ago. I've been doing front end work a living for a while now and I try not to make the same mistakes twice.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-18-2012, 07:55 PM
pawoSD's Avatar
Dieselsüchtiger
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 15,438
When a part magically costs many times less than the alternative, there's usually a reason.....and that reason is that the part is junk.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-18-2012, 10:48 PM
Diesel911's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Long Beach,CA
Posts: 51,244
Way about 4 years ago I bought a complete front end kit on eBay.
All the Parts were URO.
I only used the Upper Control Arms and the lower Control Arm Bushings and have had no issues with them. But, I am a low mileage driver.

I found the URO Ball Joint (I never used them) ID where they would press in is actually fatter than the Lemfoerder one. That would make them Harder to install.

Never have used the Tie Rod or Drag link parts.

Even though it is a front end kit it came with the Plastic Sway Bar Links and Rear Trailing Arm Bushing (which I may be useing this year).

__________________
84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page