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Old 04-24-2012, 02:30 PM
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Eh, I guess it's just personal preference. It's not a big deal to me to get down and turn the crankshaft bolt, and pop up periodically to check the lobe position. I figure that the work is sent to the crankshaft, and then sent to the power steering pump. I guess I just like the idea of maintaining that unidirectional flow of work, and maybe the motor likes it, too
OK, I'll admit it, I thought about using the crank bolt a couple times and when I crawled under there it didn't look like I could get the socked on the bolt without removing the fan shroud so i gave in and went back to the P/S bolt, not wanting to make an all day project out of it. Part of it is, I have a bunch of P/S pumps if the bolt should become a problem, but I,m still interested to know why I couldn't see how easy it was to get on that crank bolt

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Old 04-24-2012, 02:53 PM
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a better way, is to use a starter jump switch... about 8.00 at any auto parts store, and the 123's and 126's have an easy panel on the fender to clip to!
From what I have read on this Forum only the W123s With a Turbo have the Terminal/Wire Junction Block in front of the Battery on the Fender Well.
But, the non-trubos do not have that and you would need to connect the Rmote Starter Switch down on the Starter Solenoid.

But, there is still times when you may need to turn the Engine by hand; so it is nice to have a choice of metnods.
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I just bump mine over with the key until I get the camshaft into the position I want.

There's a procedure on here somewhere about checking timing chain elongation.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:31 PM
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From what I have read on this Forum only the W123s With a Turbo have the Terminal/Wire Junction Block in front of the Battery on the Fender Well.
But, the non-trubos do not have that and you would need to connect the Rmote Starter Switch down on the Starter Solenoid.

But, there is still times when you may need to turn the Engine by hand; so it is nice to have a choice of metnods.
only the 240's don't have the terminal block. all the N/A 300's do... and on the 240's you can easily reach the starter terminals...
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[QUOTE=Diesel911;2925903]From what I have read on this Forum only the W123s With a Turbo have the Terminal/Wire Junction Block in front of the Battery on the Fender Well.
But, the non-trubos do not have that and you would need to connect the Rmote Starter Switch down on the Starter Solenoid.


Seems I remember a while back hearing about this "panel", and not knowing about turbo cars, finally figured out i didn't have one

Its easy to reach the solenoid tho
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a better way, is to use a starter jump switch... about 8.00 at any auto parts store, and the 123's and 126's have an easy panel on the fender to clip to!
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:47 PM
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OK, I'll admit it, I thought about using the crank bolt a couple times and when I crawled under there it didn't look like I could get the socked on the bolt without removing the fan shroud so i gave in and went back to the P/S bolt, not wanting to make an all day project out of it. Part of it is, I have a bunch of P/S pumps if the bolt should become a problem, but I,m still interested to know why I couldn't see how easy it was to get on that crank bolt
Ah yes, the fan shroud. Mine has been off for a few years, since I installed my reman motor. I guess that might explain the relative ease I have in accessing the crank bolt

Still though, I adjusted the valves on my old motor, and always used the crank to turn it. I go by 'feel' and bite on the bolt with a 27mm deep socket, and then attach a 1/2" driver to it. I find it a little more difficult to attach the whole socket + driver at once.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:19 PM
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Ah yes, the fan shroud. Mine has been off for a few years, since I installed my reman motor. I guess that might explain the relative ease I have in accessing the crank bolt

Still though, I adjusted the valves on my old motor, and always used the crank to turn it. I go by 'feel' and bite on the bolt with a 27mm deep socket, and then attach a 1/2" driver to it. I find it a little more difficult to attach the whole socket + driver at once.
You didn't get all the way up and back on the Alcan highway without your fan shroud did you?

Uh Huh, think I'll stick with the P/S bolt
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only the 240's don't have the terminal block. all the N/A 300's do... and on the 240's you can easily reach the starter terminals...
Thanks, I remember that.
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Thanks, I remember that.
Also the Euro, N/A 300s do not, at least mine does not have it.
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You didn't get all the way up and back on the Alcan highway without your fan shroud did you?

Uh Huh, think I'll stick with the P/S bolt
Drove up with it attached to a 617 with 3 good cylinders (250+ psi).

Drove back without it, but with a 617 that actually has 5 good cylinders. Is it really critical? Does it make a tremendous difference in terms of the volume of air moved?

Sorry... don't mean to hijack this thread.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:41 AM
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Drove up with it attached to a 617 with 3 good cylinders (250+ psi).

Drove back without it, but with a 617 that actually has 5 good cylinders. Is it really critical? Does it make a tremendous difference in terms of the volume of air moved?

Sorry... don't mean to hijack this thread.
From what I have read on the Forums some Peoples Cars seem to have borderline Cooling compared to others. So, on some Cars the Shroud might be critical component.
It also depends on the Weather in the area you do your Driving and the type of driving.
I person stuck in a Traffic Jam in the dead of Summer with the A/C maxed in AZ might really need the Fan Shroud.
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Also the Euro, N/A 300s do not, at least mine does not have it.
Hmm, I'll have to check mine... I'm not sure on it.
so it's the USA models 300's have the block, and 240's do not, interesting.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:59 AM
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Drove up with it attached to a 617 with 3 good cylinders (250+ psi).

Drove back without it, but with a 617 that actually has 5 good cylinders. Is it really critical? Does it make a tremendous difference in terms of the volume of air moved?

Sorry... don't mean to hijack this thread.
I think I would rather make the trip without a fan shroud than without 5 good cylinders I drove it a couple times before there was much pavement in BC and the Yukon, 1500 miles of washboard

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