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Old 04-26-2012, 01:00 PM
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Wetness on secondary fuel filter lid. Replaced washer.

It is what it is.

I've went through two copper washers trying to prevent fuel from seeping out. It's not much fuel, but a little diesel goes a long way and leaves an unsightly stain beneath the car.

Is there supposed to be an o-ring on the hold down bolt or something?

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Old 04-26-2012, 01:18 PM
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The older fuel filter head has a common problem of not being able to seal effectively. The crush washer does seat properly because the rubber gasket of the filter does not allow it to do so. Too much flexing of the how assembly.

So the best way to fix this issue is to upgrade your filter head. 617 cars 1983 and newer came with an improved version in which there are now two O-rings on the bolt to replace the crush washer. This provided better sealing in conjuction with the filter's rubber gasket.

Photo of updated filter head with updated bolt. Courtesy of toomany MBZ.




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Old 04-26-2012, 01:35 PM
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Danka.

Is this part available new or do I have to call salvage yards?

Anyone got a spare?

I wonder if double washers or a small gasket would work?
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Danka.

Is this part available new or do I have to call salvage yards?

Anyone got a spare?
You need the casting in the picture? I have a 1984 300D that is going to the salvage yard tomorrow.
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You need the casting in the picture? I have a 1984 300D that is going to the salvage yard tomorrow.
I'm not sure, but I doubt it. I believe that mine only has a connection for the return line from the IP. This one seems to have that plus two others.
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Same problem, still unresolved

Sounds like our vehicles have similar problems. Mine leaks in the same place. I tried a fiber washer from the hardware store of appropriate dimensions, which helped but didn't totally eliminate the problem. So I wouldn't recommend that solution. The correct part is the copper washer that you allude to (seal ring N 007603014100). I have ordered it and plan to intensive scrub the surfaces prior to installation. But I haven't received it yet, so I cannot say if a new washer solves the problem. Actually, EPC has two different filters, so yours may differ from mine (68 220D). Perhaps the correct part for you is N 007603016401. Good luck.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:12 PM
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The pic above is from a 123, you may be able to make out the part number.

The attachment here shows the filter and seal ring for a 115.117 with a 616.916 engine.
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Sounds like our vehicles have similar problems. Mine leaks in the same place. I tried a fiber washer from the hardware store of appropriate dimensions, which helped but didn't totally eliminate the problem. So I wouldn't recommend that solution. The correct part is the copper washer that you allude to (seal ring N 007603014100). I have ordered it and plan to intensive scrub the surfaces prior to installation. But I haven't received it yet, so I cannot say if a new washer solves the problem. Actually, EPC has two different filters, so yours may differ from mine (68 220D). Perhaps the correct part for you is N 007603016401. Good luck.

You know...

It didn't start leaking until I replaced the filter with one provided by the PO.
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You know...

It didn't start leaking until I replaced the filter with one provided by the PO.
The filters should be the same between the different housings if you are worried about that. The washer just didn't seat properly and is leaking. I have had the same issue on both of my cars with either the gaskets or washer failing.
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You need the casting in the picture? I have a 1984 300D that is going to the salvage yard tomorrow.
I might need one. Could you PM me with the details? Thanks.
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The older fuel filter head has a common problem of not being able to seal effectively. The crush washer does seat properly because the rubber gasket of the filter does not allow it to do so. Too much flexing of the how assembly.

So the best way to fix this issue is to upgrade your filter head. 617 cars 1983 and newer came with an improved version in which there are now two O-rings on the bolt to replace the crush washer. This provided better sealing in conjuction with the filter's rubber gasket.

Photo of updated filter head with updated bolt. Courtesy of toomany MBZ.
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I'm sorry. I was thinking you have a w123. You have a w115. Totally different animal.
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I'm having that problem on my 123. It's not seeping very much, but I'll have to fix it soon.
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It is what it is.

I've went through two copper washers trying to prevent fuel from seeping out. It's not much fuel, but a little diesel goes a long way and leaves an unsightly stain beneath the car.

Is there supposed to be an o-ring on the hold down bolt or something?
Use a Nu-Lip Aluminum washer with a bonded seal available at any Hydraulic spares store. It is a permanent fix for that problem and will seal perfectly even at finger tight. The 123 series is 18Ø but the 115 may be a different size.
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I had the same issue of seepage on my 300 CD. I used a nylon washer instead of the copper crush washer. No leaking for 2 years.
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on the 300, there is an o-ring on the bolt if it's pre 83, there is two o-rings on the bolt if it's 83 or newer... or if it's had an ...02 base installed.
this was news to me, and I was glad to hear it.

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