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Old 05-01-2012, 12:36 AM
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If you can find one with out the rust issues I think you'll be driving a pretty nice car.

I want to get a W211 E320CDI just for the engine...

...if you have the cash I'd go for a post 2006 W211 though if I were you.

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Thats what i'm getting a W211 E320 CDI -- now that my wife loves and stole my W210, I'm next in line for the upgrade. I love the CDI engines. The engine in the sprinter is awesome. Is it the same engine? It will be a few years before i can afford one . Although i kind of like the high head room on the W210. If you are tall you will really like it.

I noticed as i had the W210 on the lift and had a tire off that the plastic shields under wheel wells to keep debris from flying up there were still nice and tight. I pulled it off and there was tons of wet dirt / sand / leaf mixture in there that i cleaned out. I wonder if that contributes to the rust, lots of underbody panels you need to clean out every now and then.

I'll post some pics of mine when I investigate for rust. I didn't see any off hand.

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Old 05-01-2012, 12:59 AM
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You are the only one who has seemed to take them the wrong way. Let's not get dramatic about someones issues with a 350sd/sdl or how my comments may not be well received. Its a 20 year old car, they are all a roll of the dice.

Might I suggest you find a 210 example in the South where the prices might be less expensive therefore making it more affordable for your budget?
I agree with Houston. His comments were in line. . And houston pointed out the place that "RUST" really matters on the spring perch which i thought was helpful. A few paint bubbles or a small hole in the wheel well trunk of a 15 year old car with 200,000 miles on it is what I call damn good engineering
So the question is are people being anal about a little rust on an old car or are frames and spring perches rusting out everywhere? I think from people in this thread , rust is not really a problem on a W210.


Peter, you need to think about a road trip to buy your car. I'd plan a family vacation around it if i were you. I'll keep my eye out for you. Cross country trip from Florida to CA .

Hell, we just had a hail storm here that put about 10 dings in every car that wasn't in a garage. State Farm set up a drivethrough claims processing in the Wal Mart parking lot and in 45 minutes my friend had a check for 3000.00 for a few dings in his 1998 beetle. My W210 has a few dings in it but i'll never care. You can't see em in pictures. Maybe you can find something on the cheap like i did.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:25 AM
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I agree with Houston. His comments were in line. . And houston pointed out the place that "RUST" really matters on the spring perch which i thought was helpful.
Useful advice if I had not raised that point myself earlier in the thread.

Critiquing other people for their concerns is not as useful as trying to answer their question. Ad hominem comments are not useful in my eyes.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:28 AM
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Thats what i'm getting a W211 E320 CDI -- now that my wife loves and stole my W210, I'm next in line for the upgrade. I love the CDI engines. The engine in the sprinter is awesome. Is it the same engine? It will be a few years before i can afford one . Although i kind of like the high head room on the W210. If you are tall you will really like it.

I noticed as i had the W210 on the lift and had a tire off that the plastic shields under wheel wells to keep debris from flying up there were still nice and tight. I pulled it off and there was tons of wet dirt / sand / leaf mixture in there that i cleaned out. I wonder if that contributes to the rust, lots of underbody panels you need to clean out every now and then.

I'll post some pics of mine when I investigate for rust. I didn't see any off hand.
Thanks for keeping to the point about the rust issue. And I've been reading about the W211 E320 CDI today. What a great engine!
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:46 AM
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There are several "autobahn" videos on youtube for the e320cdi

E320 CDI. 0 - 210 km/h. - YouTube

Who needs a V8?
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Thats what i'm getting a W211 E320 CDI -- now that my wife loves and stole my W210, I'm next in line for the upgrade. I love the CDI engines. The engine in the sprinter is awesome. Is it the same engine? It will be a few years before i can afford one . Although i kind of like the high head room on the W210. If you are tall you will really like it.

I noticed as i had the W210 on the lift and had a tire off that the plastic shields under wheel wells to keep debris from flying up there were still nice and tight. I pulled it off and there was tons of wet dirt / sand / leaf mixture in there that i cleaned out. I wonder if that contributes to the rust, lots of underbody panels you need to clean out every now and then.

I'll post some pics of mine when I investigate for rust. I didn't see any off hand.
I'm not sure if the OM648 is fitted to the sprinter - according to wikipedia the OM642 (a V6 instead of a straight 6) is fitted.

Mercedes-Benz Sprinter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's also a monster

Mercedes-Benz OM642 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:53 AM
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There are several "autobahn" videos on youtube for the e320cdi

E320 CDI. 0 - 210 km/h. - YouTube

Who needs a V8?
I watched that and another one that appears to be in Poland (or heading to Odansk, Poland), which goes from the odometer to a shot of the road.

!!!!

Is this body improved over the E300?

Now I have to get money together somehow for a gently used 320 CDI.

By the way, your Avatar got me reading about the historical St. George. Very interesting. A noble person.

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Old 05-01-2012, 11:35 AM
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2006 Mercedes E320 CDI Diesel ( local and rare trade---Must See)

Here is one a couple hrs away from me. For 100.00 i'll go test drive it for you and check it for rust Been on there a while. Interior looks nice. A bit sportier looking. But i don't know how they hold up.
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I'd wish we got the 4 cylinder or 5 cylinder versions of these things . They put a 604 engine in a W210 somewhere in the world. Probably with a 5 spd gear box.
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Useful advice if I had not raised that point myself earlier in the thread.

Critiquing other people for their concerns is not as useful as trying to answer their question. Ad hominem comments are not useful in my eyes.



When I mentioned that my 210 was a Southern car and still had a rust bubble it was my way of relaying to you that even a car in the South could have cosmetic rust.

Then when I made a comment about rust on a 20yo car I was implying that even if you find a 210 with rust it is not always a dealbreaker.

I was trying to be helpful, once again you are the only one who was offended by my observation. Remember, this is a forum and someones comments may not always be useful in your eyes.
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2006 Mercedes E320 CDI Diesel ( local and rare trade---Must See)

Here is one a couple hrs away from me. For 100.00 i'll go test drive it for you and check it for rust Been on there a while. Interior looks nice. A bit sportier looking. But i don't know how they hold up.
Appreciate it, biopete. There's one about the same price near me. I've got to scrape up some dough first.

Have you ever driven one of these?

So...I take it you're driving an SVO or WVO conversion?

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WARNING - the dreaded abbreviations have been used! Now I'm not sure what you're thinking but just in case here goes...

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The injector pumps on these modern Mercedes are not designed to take serious punishment - in fact filling with petrol instead of diesel will be a serious problem if the petrol reaches the pump. SVO or WVO would probably kill them too. If you want the luxury, performance and speed of a newer MB don't expect it then to be "cheap" to run on old chip fat as well.

I've read about problems with bio diesel content added to diesel (in Europe - perhaps this is also done elsewhere?) that separates leaving a water content that causes corrosion... so don't not use 'em either.
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Nope . I'd love to drive one though. WVO is all i do. Mostly for fun and it saves a little dough too. 16K is a big chunk of money for a car. I couldn't do it. One thing I hope is you don't need 100 different special tools to work on these newer cars. I had to change a diff mount on a W124 and the tool to do it that pretty much only works on that car, the W210 mounts are different, was 125.00 .

I'd love to hear how the W211's are.
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Nope . I'd love to drive one though. WVO is all i do. Mostly for fun and it saves a little dough too. 16K is a big chunk of money for a car. I couldn't do it. One thing I hope is you don't need 100 different special tools to work on these newer cars. I had to change a diff mount on a W124 and the tool to do it that pretty much only works on that car, the W210 mounts are different, was 125.00 .

I'd love to hear how the W211's are.
I already checked into the tools. All you need for a differential mount is a laser powered, magnetic flux neutrino modulator with a reverse polarity muon generator. Metric, of course.

16K is a lot for me, too, but the idea of all that torque...

You should check out the youtube of the guys driving it in Poland at crazy speeds!!!!

So do you have a filter setup for restaurant oil?
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The injector pumps on these modern Mercedes are not designed to take serious punishment - in fact filling with petrol instead of diesel will be a serious problem if the petrol reaches the pump. SVO or WVO would probably kill them too. If you want the luxury, performance and speed of a newer MB don't expect it then to be "cheap" to run on old chip fat as well.

I've read about problems with bio diesel content added to diesel (in Europe - perhaps this is also done elsewhere?) that separates leaving a water content that causes corrosion... so don't not use 'em either.
I wouldn't use WVO or SVO on the 320, if I'm lucky enough to get one.

Thanks for the tip about biodiesel.

I once, bleary-eyed, put gas in my 300SDL. Luckily all my mechanic had to do was drain it, and it was fine. I do like the simplicity of the all mechanical 3.0 Litre.

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