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200T? what the...?
check it out. he says it is a 4 cylinder GAS engine on a wagon body. manual tranny too I think.
1985 Mercedes 200t gaz not diesel |
Its a euro model. Pretty cool car for the price too.
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Interesting. Very interesting.
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are there any registration or inspection issues if it is a euro model?
heck i might buy it. according to him, all it needs is a throwout bearing. |
Worth a look. Probably a carb engine. Going to be tough to find parts.
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If I lived near by, it would already be in my driveway.
For sale is one of a kind Mercedes station wagon 200t Only few were made n not many were imported to us Body n interior r in excellent condition Has the good looking euro bumpers Car has 4 cyl gaz engine that runs good n the 4spd manual tranny has a new clutch kit installed but now needs a throw out bearing . Trying to get rid of it . Can b converted to diesel or fix the tranny n either way u go u'll have a unique car Call or text 919 333 8611 http://images.craigslist.org/5Fc5H85...5b6a991626.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/thumb/5...b7ef241f6d.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/thumb/5...5b6a991626.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/thumb/5...a83add1fb0.jpg http://images.craigslist.org/thumb/5...1c64841ecd.jpg |
Was a carb engine. Back then they were what they designated on the 123s.
Gas motors consisted of 200, 230, 230E, 250, 280, 280E..only the 200 was available in the later years in carb form if memory serves. Of course add a T to make them wagons, not sure if I recall a 230T though, I know a friend had a 250T, think there was a 280T, but not 100% certain. All were at one time sedans, don't think the 200 ever was put into a 123 coupe either... Actually might still have some early 80s german brochures for the 123s to go rummage through...:P Quote:
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This is likely the same car thats been for sale for over 2 years. I believe the Seller owns/manages a Pizza restaurant close to NCSU...I spoke w/him about the wagon back in 2010-2011, had all the info on it , .....just wondering why it never sold !!
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Neat car. I wonder how a 4 cylinder engine would do in one of these heavy beasts. The only "drawback" I see is that gawd-awful blue interior. I passed on a couple really nice cars simply because that blue interior makes me want to barf.
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The 230T (with M115 engine) was produced for two years. Total production 6,884. The 200T (with M102 engine) was produced from 1980 to January 1986, total production 18,860. Also possible were the 250T, 230TE (M102 engine) and 280TE.
See here: Kategorie:W123/en |
I see the 230E, and the 280E show up in the yards from time to time. there was a 280TD in one of the Portland yards a few weeks back. are the Carbs changeable between the models?
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Talk about old skool, four-cylinder with a carb.
I seem to remember reading that the 200T models didn't come with SLS as standard. |
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There's a great guy over on BW with 200T as his user name. Loads of 200Ts were sent to the UK - they were quite a common sight when I was going to school. |
The 200T came with SLS. See the picture below, which is, by coincidence, a 200T from the UK:
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x.../W123_200T.jpg |
Iwas looking at it a couple of weeks ago
Needs a battery, windshield, throwout bearing (which makes me wonder about the rest of the clutch work) but otherwise looks okay. I got a few pics from him, not the best but it didn't seem to have too much rust, the hinge pockets were full, couldn't tell if they were rust, ditto the battery area. I don't think it's running right now, night only take a battery and some fresh fuel.
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If you buy it and find it needs seats, I have blue interior sitting here. Seats are like new. |
It would be a great little wagon to put a 617 turbo into it. What a lovely little job and then you could easily slip that $17.00 release bearing at the same time. That is what happens when you try to save money. It will come back and bite you right where you carry your wallet. The 617 would have to have the correct head for that stupid hydraulic suspension. It does not have Uro lights. I think they are a little high on the car, and it is a long ways from Indy and I don't want to work anymore, anyway so I am going to forgetaboutit. But it is tempting!
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Well I was not aware of that, but that is the case. The starter is on the drivers side. However the problem is not impossible to solve as the bell housing on the manual transmissions used until 1982 late were cast separate from the transmissions and can be easily changed. A new one could easily be obtained from the dealer. If it is too much, then a used one could be had for the price of shipping plus a little for the part from junkyards in Great Britian and the Netherlands.
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another idea
Just drop a 300TD engine and transmission into it! Here's one for sale:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/318832-fs-300td-engine-transmission-memphis-tn.html Oh, DUH!!! I have that for sale. And here's a you tube of the engine running: Engine Run - YouTube I'm picking these up this weekend as part of the 240D in my garage trade. |
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With the introduction of the new M102 engine (now 2.0 with 109HP and 2.3 with injection and 136HP), the 2.0 found it's way into the wagon. Designated as 200T, and the bigger 2.3 as 230TE. The 200T is by far not as rare as the seller wants to make you believe... The realy rare wagons are the 250T (7.704 made) and the 230T, of which only 6.884 have been build. Biut they produced 18.860 200Ts. They just didn't sell them on the US market, I think (too low speced engine probably). The 280 never found it'S way into the wagon without injection :) |
Oh and btw - the front plate is temporary german (valid for 5 days) plate :D Kreis Mettmann
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A properly maintained SLS is actually pretty sweet. I managed to impress several folks (customers & employees) at Home Depot the other day when I loaded my wagon up with cement pavers. |
All 123T have a SLS and a mirror on the right. :)
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A 200 T has 109 HP and 170 Nm. A 300 TD has 88 HP and 172 Nm. Not a greater difference... :rolleyes: |
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200T and 230TE were quite popular here in the UK.
There were many more 230TE than 200T around though. There were quite a few 200 (sedan) cars around too. Of all the wagons though the 230TE and 280TE were the most popular here, not that many 300D/300TD in comparison. |
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And a 230TE is fairly quick, absolutely no troubles in modern TDI turbo-trafic :) A 200T however... Hmm... As has been pointed out, it's the gasser that comes closest to a diesel :D Btw: they also made a W124 200T! |
The only thing that would scare me would be a carburetor. Oh, and rust.
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The a turbo upgrade and your 200T becomes a much more sprightly and efficient grocery getter. Problem is your pockets will be empty after buying all the parts to do it right. |
I used to own a 200 sedan, not a wagon in SA. It was a good car but the performance left much to be desired compared to the contemporaneous 230E. The only justifiable reason to own one was the lower entry price. My brother also had one. His was auto, mine was the four speed stick. Not much meaningful difference between them performance wise. Mine just made you think you were quicker because you were always stuffing around with the gears. It would certainly be a interesting grocery getter and cruises quite happily all day long on the highway but really, any larger displacement 123 is a superior car. Oh, and the 200 and 230E's also had a timing chain "thing"... Though fortunately that spared both my brother and myself.
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