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08-19-2011, 06:41 PM
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From "Norm" to "Turbo Norm"
Hey everybody,
So for about the last year or so I've been considering doing a NA to Turbo swap in Norm mated to a 4 speed manual. I've been reading up a lot about engine swaps and I think I'm at the point where it seems feasable to make this a winter project. Last night I picked up a 4 speed from Joe's 240 that he just swapped out. I got most everything, just need the shift rods, master cylinder, shifter, and of course the driveshaft. I'm going to the yard to take a look at a few engines that are in 126 chassis. I've been looking and have yet to find a wagon engine in good enough shape for a swap. With that being said I think that the 124 pump for the sls is the route I will be taking. If there is any insight on how to modify this pump to fit I'd love to see it. There really is nothing wrong with my current engine, but it will need injectors soon and has been leaking oil. On top of that it's downright slow with my larger wheels and while the ac is on. Making norm in to a fun to drive highway machine is my goal! 
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08-19-2011, 06:51 PM
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The 617 turbo/4 spd combo is so great that I'm dumfounded as to why it was never offered by the factory.
Will you be keeping the NA rear end or swapping to a 3.07 or 2.88?
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08-19-2011, 06:54 PM
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08-19-2011, 07:00 PM
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Also I would like to install a tach during this process.
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08-19-2011, 08:47 PM
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This, effectively, eliminates first and second gear from turbo use in everyday driving unless you held the gear with the shift lever. It's an interesting package for an enthusiast, but the driveability for the average moron is simply not there.
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08-19-2011, 09:11 PM
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 If there is ever a GTG close to me, I will bring my car so you guys can drive it.
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08 R320 CDI current Past 95 E420 87 300D Turbo 5spd 90 300TE 83 300SD 85 300TD 92 400E 85 190D
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08-19-2011, 10:37 PM
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08-19-2011, 10:52 PM
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I would do the wait and see thing first...
I need to swap my rear diff first, then I can update my thread about it. Because the stock 2.65 is just too tall for the swap. That way you can find all the stuff you need before hand, including diff.
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08 R320 CDI current Past 95 E420 87 300D Turbo 5spd 90 300TE 83 300SD 85 300TD 92 400E 85 190D
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08-20-2011, 12:17 AM
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Don, You've heard about the rule that says you gotta give new guys first crack at those 5 speed manual trannys right? 
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08-20-2011, 12:34 AM
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5 speed in my 300D. Not the 240
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08-20-2011, 12:38 AM
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(1)Long heavy clutch throws until the 993 came out, heavy (but short) shift throws, easy to stall on starting, especially the air-cooled ones. I briefly worked at a shop that did about 60% Porsche with most of the rest being Audi and Jaguar. That was a neat job. Unfortunately there wasn't enough work to justify my continued employment there.  (2)But I think I could cope 
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08-21-2011, 10:57 AM
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08-21-2011, 11:01 AM
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methinks he meant consensus to cover opinions of why MB didn't do it.
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08-21-2011, 11:05 AM
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No, still doesn't make any sense.
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08-21-2011, 03:52 PM
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Based on how fast the turbo builds boost in my car between letting off the throttle and mashing it again, I'd say it goes from 0-12psi in about 2 seconds or less...based on the speed it moves the needle on my boost gauge....that'd not be any big deal with a manual, just have to count on it driving kinda like a Semi.
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