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Old 06-20-2012, 05:38 PM
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The journey of my first Mercedes 1981 300TD

1981 300td 5 cylinder

I just bought this beast yesterday for 500 dollars, I have all info for anything ever done...from its purchase in Idaho to its life in LA, to Charlotte, to under a tree for the last few years. Best I can tell it was driven in 09. 190k miles..

It was a veggie burner, was a purge system, and he always ran good clean oil.

I have set up a purge type gas tank in a gatorade bottle, new battery, removed the air cleaner.

I was excited to get power..that was a big first step.
I turned the switch on the glow light stays on for 5 seconds...
Turns over.........nothing more....

I have checked voltage to the glow relay, and the ohms for each glow seem all out of wack according to my meter and what Diesel giant says they should be...

I just removed the injector lines and in order made sure they are getting fuel....they are..

One of the glow lines were loose, I tightened it...

Turned on switch and let stay on for 30 sec......turned over, and nothing......

I have been reading for weeks in preparation for this car, but I was dreaming I would have had a bit more success than this at this point....

Any help is appreciated...I am planing on stoping by Advance Auto and grabbing 5 glow plugs just to rule them out, and at 10 bucks a piece thats not a bad investment anyway.

Thanks SO much in advance for the direction and conversation...I will certainly post some pictures soon when I get my hands cleaner and my thumbs regain feeling from pumping the priming thing so much....


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Old 06-20-2012, 05:52 PM
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I was also told the alternator was bad, I was given a new one in the box with the purchase, I just figured that would not impede it cranking...but if I get it running I will certainly know quick that its bad.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:26 PM
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where are ya? still in charlotte? what side of town? I could give you a hand.
we'll focus on the diesel side of the car first, get good fuel flow through the return line, and verify the IP is putting out at all injectors, then check compression, and glow plugs.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:45 PM
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I'm just over the Gaston County line in Lincoln county. Iron Station.

Think I'm going to pop the valve cover off tonight and adjust the valves.
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:47 PM
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HA! I work most nights off 321 in Gastonia!

PM your phone, maybe I'll have time to swing by tomorrow... I'm in Mt Holly at the moment, my arm may be twistable to swing up 27...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
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1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

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1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 06-20-2012, 06:58 PM
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You work for cheap? I'm a poor school teacher with 3 kids...hince the 500 dollar car....will pm you in a second...I'm a few minutes from Alexis, and about 7 from the Hardin road exit off 321....
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2001 Chevy Mini-van.....mine, which is why I am trying to get the 300TD Wagon on the road...had old Jeeps my whole life, now a mini van and a struggling "man-card"
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:40 PM
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Glow plugs aren't working.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:52 PM
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I am picking up new ones at 11am, in the morning, I hope to have my cranking video on youtube tomorrow evening! And finding out I live near the MB guru Vstech....I am a lucky guy....have always wanted one of these cars, I just hope that it will be the driver I want it to be...either way I am learning a bunch for my first one! Thats worth the 500 bucks....
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:57 PM
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Have you checked for voltage at the plugs? It could be as simple as a bad strip fuse in the relay.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:03 AM
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Hasn't been run in three years? WVO prior? Maybe a little Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders for a good soak?

Disclaimer: I've never done this, but am repeating anecdotal recommendations of a technique that is alleged to help free up sticky rings. Use at your own risk, or do a search.

Oh, and at $500 you're automatically enrolled in the cheap wagon club.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:04 AM
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I am picking up new ones at 11am, in the morning, I hope to have my cranking video on youtube tomorrow evening! And finding out I live near the MB guru Vstech....I am a lucky guy....have always wanted one of these cars, I just hope that it will be the driver I want it to be...either way I am learning a bunch for my first one! Thats worth the 500 bucks....
Get only Bosch or Beru Glow Plugs. I have experience with the Autolite Glow Plug tips swelling and almost not coming out.

Tried Monark Glow Plugs and had one die in 1.5 years.

Did you verify if the Glow Plugs are getting Voltage?

While the Glow Plugs are out ream out the Carbon in the Holes with a Glowp Plug Reamer or alternative Method.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:04 AM
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Have you checked for voltage at the plugs? It could be as simple as a bad strip fuse in the relay.
He says he gets a light.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:09 AM
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Of course I have Autolites coming to my local shop...will they ruin my car? or will I be ok even if for a short life span?

Relay is getting 12 volts at all three bolts.
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:15 AM
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New Guy in NC needs HELP. 300TD-imageuploadedbytapatalk1340252001.591649.jpg
New Guy in NC needs HELP. 300TD-imageuploadedbytapatalk1340252048.698642.jpg
New Guy in NC needs HELP. 300TD-imageuploadedbytapatalk1340252098.117285.jpg
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2001 Suburban...wifes, hauls the 3 kids and drinks gas like its a .99 milkshake at Cook-out
2001 Chevy Mini-van.....mine, which is why I am trying to get the 300TD Wagon on the road...had old Jeeps my whole life, now a mini van and a struggling "man-card"
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:16 AM
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He says he gets a light.
Does a light imply the fuse is operational? I know it doesn't necessarily mean that all the plugs are good.

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1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
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1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
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