I'm wondering what's involved in installing one. I'm thinking 124 but pics of any chassis would be fine.

I have a thread with pictures on one that I put into my 84 300sd. Search my name and parallel flow condenser 300sd and it should come up. The biggest issue is fabbing up the new hoses. Fitting it in is rather easy. You will either need to get a crimper (Mastercool or other brand) for about $150 new or take it to a shop to crimp them.

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2009 ML320 Bluetec
1985 300CD
1981 300TD

Past Mercedes
1979 300TD
1982 300TD
2000 E320 4Matic Wagon
1998 E430
1984 300SD
1980 300SD

AMA Automotive Air Conditioning Parts & Equipment - Compressors Condensers Accumulators Expansion Va: Parallel Flow Condensers - Aluminum

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'84 300SD sold
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Found it: Purchasing a Condenser

Hmm. I just noticed yesterday that there is a PF condenser on my 84 240-5speed euro... ya want pics of that one?

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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Pics of the hose routing specifically, would be nice.

Not to be a wet blanket, but I just thought I would point something out.

Yes PF condensors are more efficient, but the world is a compromise. If the time ever comes where you need to flush it, you will have to replace it. There is no way to thoroughly flush a PF condensor.

Getting the system in good shape with it's original refrigerant should alleviate the need for a PF condensor.

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2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

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Flabbergasting that folks insist on costly complications when a tried and true alternative has long existed which is the least expensive, is compatible with all lubricants, causes the least wear and tear to your equipment, is the least damaging to the environment and puts the least load on your engine: hydrocarbon refrigerant.

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You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

I disagree that it is more costly to use a PFC. When I did my 84 SD, the condenser was bad. I couldn't get a new stock condenser for under $250. I got a new PFC condenser for less than $100. New lines cost around $50-75 to get fabbed up. Also, last time I checked, R12 is more expensive than R134a. So I can agree with the fact that R12 can work better than R134a, but I can not agree that is costs less and is least damaging to the environment. This is the main reason I did a PFC vs stock was that it was cheaper.

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2009 ML320 Bluetec
1985 300CD
1981 300TD

Past Mercedes
1979 300TD
1982 300TD
2000 E320 4Matic Wagon
1998 E430
1984 300SD
1980 300SD

Propane?

Yeah, it`s great for a BBQ.....


Some where floating around the internet is a picture and writeup showing a guys SL shooting flames down under the engine.
good thing it was at some sort of GTG and guys had fire extinguishers. as I remember it had something to do with a AC hose
rubbing.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

It was in fact a Porsche 928. The full, highly detailed, story can be found here Chariot Afire: Is It The First Documented Hydrocarbon Refrigerant Fire

The fan had sliced a miss-fitted refrigerant hose. Good thing it wasn't the gasoline fuel line. Also, in Australia, in a test, the hydrocarbon (often a propane/isobutane blend) was deliberately set off to ignite inside a car resulting in injuries to the occupants.

So far these are the only documented instances of H/C in Automotive AC application resulting in mishaps out of millions of cars/miles of H/C use. Both through extreme negligence - one of the prime mover of accidents.

Is it safer not to use propane for barbecuing? Yes. It's even safer to not barbecue at all. Perhaps you might also wish to consider being fed intravenously to rule out biting your tongue.

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'83 SD, 2x '85 SD
You are entitled to your own opinions, you are not entitled to your own facts.

Hmmm..... ~$10 a pound for 134a, ~$15 a pound for R12?

How much did that condensor cost again?

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2014 Porsche Cayenne six speed manual

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Please point out the error in my statement. I don't carry arguments from OD to DD, I don't feel you should either.

I do agree with your above statement in post #7 about PFCs not necessarily being better than using R12 (as I stated). I simply pointed out the inaccuracy of saying a PFC was more expensive than stock which was the main reason I went with a PFC at the time. Having to do it all over again I would have spent more money and stuck with R12 on that vehicle.

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2009 ML320 Bluetec
1985 300CD
1981 300TD

Past Mercedes
1979 300TD
1982 300TD
2000 E320 4Matic Wagon
1998 E430
1984 300SD
1980 300SD

Some pictures of my setup from my install a few years ago.

Two new resized hoses on the right



Condenser as installed.




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