Yeah, I already spoke to him. It came with the SD that he bought, someone else had reconfigured it to work as a .303.

"To my knowledge, the biggest difference is the tail housing which in the .309 has a gear drive for the speedo cable vs the .303's inductive signal. There might be differences in length and flange pattern as well. Since you're keeping it in a 123, it should fit as long as the exterior dimensions and interfaces are the same. I'd stick with a Diesel torque converter and cross fingers that it shifts properly. If it doesn't shift properly, you might get away with swapping in a Diesel valve body. Worst case is you'll need a governor calibrated for the much lower redline of a 617 vs a 110. You'd think there'd be no end of .315s considering the number of turbo 617s in the country."

I think I'm going to stay with looking for a 722.315 or have my indy rebuild mine. Too many variables to mess with by design which would make the the process too frustrating. I had an opportunity to buy a rebuilt 722.309 from another indy for only $800 + $200 to swap in but I don't think he is aware of the mismatch that he has to accommodate. He is trying to salvage some money as the client '82 280E engine went south a couple of months after sending out the tranny for rebuilding.

I'm impressed by your rebuild, I only wish if was for my transmission series then I would surely tackle it myself. If I continue to get $2000-2700 rebuilding quotes, I'm going to have to take on the rebuild myself and learn the process.

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85 300CD Signal Red/Tan sold
83 300D Manganese Brown 109K
97 E420 Midnight Blue 197K sold
98 BMW 328i Vert White 100K, sold
95 BMW 525i White 125K, sold
93 BMW 525iT Red 193K, sold
95 E320 Green Wagon 125K, sold
94 E320 White 127K, sold
85 300SD 156K Grey (Annie), sold
84 300D Lapis Blue 170K (Judy), sold
99 ML 320 Black (lease), 1998 C230 White (lease)
00 Honda S2000 Red (lease)
86 Mercedes 300E (sold)
84 Porsche 911 Red (sold), 1965 Porsche 911 White (sold)

Edge, you do have a beautiful coupe. If it was mine I would start on the 4 speed now. However, since that is not the way you are leaning, I think to plug in a slightly mismatched transmission would be OK for someone who has no ability to do it better. Now if you can go for something better, then get a quality rebuilt from some major Mercedes Rebuilder. I think Sun Valley is a good one, there probably are others, I don't know if Metric Motors does transmissions, probably does. But I would have that thing pulled out and get a quality transmission put in and be done with it. Service it yearly, put the best fluid in it and for moderate driving should never need to be replaced for many, many years.

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1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

I think Adsit Company near here in Muncie, IN sells a rebuilt but I understand the Company Management is really the pits to deal with if things don't go right. Some of the stories have been posted here on the Forum and they are bad!

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Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis



1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

Wifey is objecting to the manual cause she can't drive it. Nice for me but would create too much tension should the 83 300D is in the shop for anything. Adsit has too many horror stories for their pricing Sun Valley sounds like good quality but expensive also. I am awaiting a rebuild price from my trusty Croation indy or maybe pick up a cheaper used 722.315 that he can put in. How hard is it to do the swap myself?

It is a stupid nasty dirty job that will really try you out. If you not well versed in getting down and dirty a lot, I'd say PASS! But it is a stupid job, anyone can do it. Just takes time and tools. But I'd say PASS!

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Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis



1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

The tricky thing about Sun Valley transmissions is that the 2-year warranty is only good for repairs done by them at their SoCal location, so what good its that when I'm in CT?

No good!

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1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

You give them a phone call on that. I don't think any good company will live or die with that policy. I will bet they they will give you an OK to go to one of the national transmission shops for warranty.

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Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important. C.S. Lewis



1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

Could I have a K-1 spring problem??? Reverse, 1st and 2nd are fine, accelerates well off the line....having trouble engaging from 2nd to 3rd???

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85 300CD Signal Red/Tan sold
83 300D Manganese Brown 109K
97 E420 Midnight Blue 197K sold
98 BMW 328i Vert White 100K, sold
95 BMW 525i White 125K, sold
93 BMW 525iT Red 193K, sold
95 E320 Green Wagon 125K, sold
94 E320 White 127K, sold
85 300SD 156K Grey (Annie), sold
84 300D Lapis Blue 170K (Judy), sold
99 ML 320 Black (lease), 1998 C230 White (lease)
00 Honda S2000 Red (lease)
86 Mercedes 300E (sold)
84 Porsche 911 Red (sold), 1965 Porsche 911 White (sold)

Whaaaaaat?

Is that all that is wrong with it?

Have a look at this diagram showing the relationships between gears and "elements"



K1 looks favourite to me - there are several threads on the subject - tangofox007 seems to be the superior shift kit man on the 722.3 => use his name in a search and you should get some good threads.

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

YES!!! Got the K-1 spring from the MB dealer who gave it to me at wholesale, $6. Installed it this morning with another change in ATF. Car was the same. Took it to any indy who takes it for a test drive and comes in to talk to me. SO you have trouble getting into 4th? NO, I have trouble getting into 3rd, last week I got into 4th on the highway and she flies. Well he says, on the test drive, she's engaging 3rd. He then swapped the blue flying saucer from another '85 to see it it had any effect and also took out a little ATF as I overfilled it a tad with my rush to make the 10 am appt. We drive it again, no 3rd. So after paying him $95, he then said he has another specialist who can drop the valve body as he thinks there's a clog in it. He added because your pan was clear of metal parts and he had 3rd and I had 4th gear. Also he says the tranny shift strong and smooth with power in the other gears and usually when it is shot it doesn't feel like that. He still hopes that the tranny is good and that it is a vacuum or control issue.

He then adds that he had another specialist that comes for special work at $125 per hr who can drop the valve body to inspect it. I said I dunno, sounds like I could be $350 into it with no positive resolution still facing a swap or rebuild. Your choice he says. Then he says that's a nice red coupe with no rust, do you want to sell it, I have people who may be interested. How much? He tells me $5K +. Even with this tranny? Yes, with your tranny the way it is.

So I drive home 7 miles on the suburban roads as I couldn't use the highway without 3rd and 4th, somewhat frustrated. The system is producing vacuum, the modulator is holding vacuum, wtf?

Then a 1/4 mile from home up a hill, 3rd gear!!! OMG, I am elated so I drive around some more and 3rd is engaging!!!

Was it the new K-1 spring? And does it take a few miles to lubricate and work itself into the system? I dunno, all I know is yeah, baby!

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85 300CD Signal Red/Tan sold
83 300D Manganese Brown 109K
97 E420 Midnight Blue 197K sold
98 BMW 328i Vert White 100K, sold
95 BMW 525i White 125K, sold
93 BMW 525iT Red 193K, sold
95 E320 Green Wagon 125K, sold
94 E320 White 127K, sold
85 300SD 156K Grey (Annie), sold
84 300D Lapis Blue 170K (Judy), sold
99 ML 320 Black (lease), 1998 C230 White (lease)
00 Honda S2000 Red (lease)
86 Mercedes 300E (sold)
84 Porsche 911 Red (sold), 1965 Porsche 911 White (sold)

Well I hope this is the fix!

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

I have bought both a rebuilt transmission from Adsit Company. Not at the same time but over the past 5 years. Reasonable price, great quality, with a fair warranty. When I bought the trans I did have one small issue. May have been my installer that caused the problem but Adsit Company warrantied the parts and problem was fixed. I have had no issues since with the transmission or the engine.

It probably will be quite some time until members of this site frequent adsit. The past is too recent and there is a price to be paid for the way they conducted themselves.

It is hoped they will clean up their act. Most members like myself hope they can but words are cheap.

Time has passed since the nonsense started and ,most of us have moved on to several other suppliers that have earn our business and where always decent firms or people.

The cost to rebuild is in the Range of $2000-$3000 at a shop.
Depends where you go and what type of warranty.

Ps, i have 2 very good auto trans available

#1 out of a 1984 Concors show car winner. 116,000 meticulas miles.

#2 1983 300d 200,000 miles on her.

let me knwo if you are intrested either can be shipped.

Paul

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