Starting my Diesel conversion 2.2 into 87 190E body - Page 3 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

GregMN · #31 07-07-2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 2peej

I am anxious to learn more from the other member "GregMN" that has mentioned he used the gas trans. Are you up and running with your combo, please let us know the status? Thanks

Umm... see signature...

40k

Current status is "parked".
My 380 SEC / 300 SDC is a lot more fun to drive and gets the same mileage.

The swap took 4 days:
1: remove diesel drive train from donor
2: remove gas drive train
3: swap gas trans onto the diesel engine
4: install diesel drive train and drive it out of the garage so I could clean up the place

By the end of the week all the gauges worked, the fuel shut off worked with the ignition, the WVO system was installed and working, and the cruise control worked.

pawoSD · #32 07-07-2012, 01:29 AM

I am using gas trans with the diesel, and the diesel torque converter as the gas one does not fit.

2peej · #33 07-07-2012, 07:40 AM

Very interesting, I'm learning more each day. I was wondering if anyone else noticed diffs. between the torque conv. It has been a year or so since I tried putting the combos together, I settle then on using the gas trans, wasn't sure about a mix & match. This is good to know for future ref. Thanks all.

2peej · #34 07-07-2012, 10:09 PM

I think I made a major blunder. Got the engine and trans all bolted in, but forgot to hook up the shift linkage from trans to shifter. Is it possible to connect these up without partially pulling things back out???????????

ROLLGUY · #35 07-07-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2peej

I think I made a major blunder. Got the engine and trans all bolted in, but forgot to hook up the shift linkage from trans to shifter. Is it possible to connect these up without partially pulling things back out???????????

Yes, worst case is you need to lower the rear of the trans (remove crossmember bolts) if you cant get access.

2peej · #36 07-08-2012, 08:36 AM

Well, hopefully this should do it, the car is still up on stands under the hoist. I hope it is not needed to undo front mtr. mts. bolts etc. but it may be better if I do. What a foolish oversight!

Thanks

2peej · #37 07-08-2012, 03:04 PM

Having recieved this project in parts and pcs. I'm now not sure how this shift linkage (that I did not install before inserting the eng. trans. combo) is suppose to be oriented. I'm thinking this looks right but could actually be positioned 3 other ways. The adjustment end of the linkage is at the trans. end in the pic. I like to know in advance of an undertaking so if you know please advise. Thanks

aaa · #38 07-08-2012, 03:09 PM

Adjustment end is supposed to be at the shifter. I forget which side the clip is supposed to be on the tranny lever, I believe it should be outside.

2peej · #39 07-08-2012, 03:50 PM

Well I undid all the mtg. bolts, cross member etc. lifted & moved engine and trans. into a position to connect shift linkage. Also had left out the poly urathane bushing in the trans. linkage plate that recieves the linkage arm. What a bear, I am still not sure which direction the linkage is supposed to be in and which direction the clips face once installed???? Can someone place a pic on here or explain this, it would save me the time and trial??? Thanks

2peej · #40 07-22-2012, 05:31 PM

am finalizing my conv. of a 1987 190E w/ a 1984 190D 2.2 dsl eng. Update on the parts I was seeking. I found a Gates water pump and replacement belt tensioner assy. w/bearing from "********" all shipped for around $55. Parts look excellent and bolt right up. Hopefully I can get this engine fired up this week. I have the exaust hooked up, need to connect coolant lines etc. and will be ready to start engine. Can anyone direct me to a current source for a vacuum system diagram for a 1984 190D and 87 190E, W201 vacuum system? I'm in desperate need of one, also I may be missing a vacuum modulator(?) for this to work. The item I'm refering to in the pic below is located just to the right of the coolant resivoir cap, this is what I don't have anywhere on my car. The 2nd pic is of a 190D that does not have this item as shown in the 1st pic. It may be mounted somewhere else on other models but I don't believe there is anything like this on my 87 190E? My engine setup looks identical to the 1st pic, what do I need??? Thanks

2peej · #41 08-02-2012, 11:18 AM

Well after some delays, had to order and wait on a few items to finalize the conversion, I'm down to brass tacks. I only get a couple hrs. aday to work on this project so it is taking a while to get there. I am in need of some expert advise. #1. I would desparately like to incorporate the original glow circuit into my conv. I hope someone can walk me thru this final stage. I'm posting pics of my 84 cars relay unit which I mounted inplace of the ignition module on the drv. sd. fender. I show the wire coming out of the glw. relay box and need to know where to tie into my 87 elec. sys. The large red on the right side of the pic is the main pwr. feed to the unit, the green goes to a temp sensor in the head, I don't know where or what the red w/blk wire is. Help! Also in the upper middle of the pics is the wires I believe go to the ignition sw, where and what are they for. How do I wire them into the sys.? #2. The second pic is of the IP, there are 2 shiny blk. hoses running I believe from the oil filter to a unit of some kind that has 2 what look like barb hose fittings. One is shown just above the eng. mnt. the other is to the left of the philips head screw (not below it ). Help!!!!!

ROLLGUY · #42 08-02-2012, 07:20 PM

I can't help with the wiring, but the hoses are for the fuel thermostat. Most people just remove/bypass the fuel thermostat and heater. You just need the hose from the tank going to the lift pump, and the hose from the filter housing going to the return line back to the tank. Everything else is not needed if you want to simplify things.....Rich

aaa · #43 08-02-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2peej

The large red on the right side of the pic is the main pwr. feed to the unit, the green goes to a temp sensor in the head, I don't know where or what the red w/blk wire is. Help!

I'd ignore that one. Probably another sensor.

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Also in the upper middle of the pics is the wires I believe go to the ignition sw, where and what are they for. How do I wire them into the sys.?

Brown is ground obviously, I don't recognize the other colors though. Black is probably the glow light output. The remaining two are ignition signal (probably can be spliced from the ezl) and the cranking signal which can be had from the fuel pump relay, or fusebox if you know what color it is.

Dr. Sternschnuppe · #44 08-03-2012, 04:48 AM

"A" bunch:
⌀=4 mm, red - connect to X4/10 (wire connector), clamp 30/clamp 61 (Battery)

⌀=2.5, black/blue - to 1 glow plug
⌀=2.5, black/violet - to 2 glow plug
⌀=2.5, black/red - to 3 glow plug
⌀=2.5, black/yellow - to 4 glow plug

"B" bunch:
⌀=0.75 mm, brown - to ground, front left (near headlamp)

⌀=0.75 mm, black - to central electric box/fuse box, socket "S", clamp "6" (inner connection with socket "D", clamp "3" and from it to control lamp in instrument panel)
⌀=0.75 mm, violet - to central electric box/fuse box, socket "S", clamp "12"
⌀=0.75 mm, red/black - to central electric box/fuse box, socket "S", clamp "4"
See here:

2peej · #45 08-03-2012, 08:41 AM

Thanks so much for the pic diagram. Where can I get the book or source that this came from? Also I'm not sure what is meant here (probably can be spliced from the ezl) and the cranking signal which can be had from the fuel pump relay.? Did the original 190D 2.2 have a fuel lift pump, if so I may have to add that as I removed the gas fuel pump of the 190E.