Injector nozzles
 

Does anyone have a good parts source for injector nozzles? I'm wanting to replace the set on my 1983 300D. They have over 250,000 miles on them and I'm sure they are the originals. I checked Fastlane/Pelican Parts, but all they offer is the Bosch nozzles and I really do NOT want to try them what with all the issues I have heard.

Monarks are sold out where I have seen them for sale before, so I'm wondering if anyone knows where else to get nozzles.

Thanks,

Glenn

From the little I know - if you can't get Monarks and you don't want Bosch then for the OM617 you're kind of stuck with Bosio. The last time I looked they weren't cheap.

Let me re-phrase. I don't want to take a chance with Bosch right now. I'll get Bosio if I can find them at a reasonable price, but Monark would be my first choice. Basically what I'm asking is if anyone can provide me with some leads on suppliers, as the places I have found sell only Bosch, and the one source I knew of for Monarks are sold out! I would gladly post the name of my Monark source, but the website will not let me <grin>

Thanks,

Glenn

AFAIK, your source is the only source in the US, unless you find someone to resell them to you.

Sean Watts on the list used to supply the Monarch nozzles. Apparently is having difficult in getting the factory to ship them to him the last time I talked to him. Anyone has a phone number for him? I used to have it but can't locate it any more.

Tan

'87 300TDT
'91 300D 2.5t

i emailed the monarch factory a few months ago and they said $1000 USD minimum order. i've got some nozzles from dieselsend.de and so far they been doing really good (i've only put about 5000 miles on them though). i'm not sure if they're made in Germany or somewhere else. their house brand is called Henzo and that's what i installed. they popped very nicely and after about 1000 miles really smoothed out the engine and decreased the noise. i used the SD265 nozzles as they perform better in the OM617, you can also use the SD261 nozzles, but i have never tried them. i think noone makes the original SD240 nozzles anymore

Mer say dees sorc dot com

It would be nice to have another choice of Nozzles!

$1000 USD minimum order I don't think is such an issue but it seems that Monark cannot keep that other place that sells their Nozzles supplied with enough of them.
This makes me think that if you had the money and ordered them that you might not know if they are going to arrive in a resonable time.
Also in an email several years ago C Sean Watts said He had issues with US Coutoms sitting on them and not giving a specific date when they would release them.

Did the SD265 have the Facet (flat spot) near the Tip of the Nozzle Pintel?
If it did it is is like the Monark Nozzles and the later Mercedes Nozzles.

Both the 261 and 265 nozzles have the flat-cut pintle-nozzle needles....

Serves a similar purpose as the central hole of the 240/a type, and work well in 617

My personal choice would be the 261 for the 617, as M.B fitted them to the 'G' Wagen 617 engines, and they run very smooth, with good low-down torque....

Ive tried both and prefer the 261 for the 617.

Thanks for the info. The Monarks have the same Facet. Bosio Nozzles for the 617s have neither the central hole of the Facet.

Other than the company you gave I could not find any info on the Henzo Nozzles.
Did it say where they were made on the Nozzle of the packaging?
Düsen= Injector Nozzles
http://www.dieselsend.de/info2437010059.shtml

no, they came in clear plastic containers. they have Henzo and the part number laser etched on them. it's possible that these are just cheap chinese made nozzles and he puts his logo on them, but so far they have been performing very good

I sent them an Email and ask them. Hope they answer.

When I first got my Mercedes I bought some Brand X 7 Diesel Nozzles. Except for a Nozzle number they were not marked.
I Emailed that Company I bought them from and they claimed they were made be 7 Disel in Italy.
I did not believe that.
I was not having any issues with them but 1.5 years later I replaced them with Monark Nozzles.

I Emailed Dieselsend over the Weekend and they answered Fast.
What Country are the Henzo the SD265 and SD262 Injector Nozzles Made in?
Dear Mr. Innerbickler,

thank you for your request. All DN0SD... pintle type nozzles that are
branded 'HENZO' are maufactured in northern Italy, exclusively in one
special factury. The factury provides a constantly high quality.
The 'HENZO' brand is my own.

I am at your service for further information,

Henrik Raulefs

www.DieselSend.de
Marthastr. 48
20259 Hamburg
Germany

I got my Monarchs on ebay. The site that sold them did not have them listed at the time but I messaged him he had them and he sent me an invoice for them.

Look at the eBay seller name and the M source name. I think you will find that that are the same.
They are getting shipments but they are mostly pre-sold but I guess if you are lucky to contact them when they have extras you get them. If not lucky you wait or go someplace else.

About 3 years ago there was several regular auto part sellers that sold the Monark Nozzles but the cost was more. I doubt if they are still selling them.

It would still be nice to have some other good quality choices.

the Bosio factory is in northern Italy (Torino). i suspect that the dieselsend nozzles are made by Bosio just as an offbrand (probably made by the same machine that makes the original Bosio's); seems unlikely that a small factory would specialize in diesel nozzles (i would think it takes very specialized equipment to make these nozzles). like i said, the quality of these seem to be very good (after 5,000 miles though). his prices are really good too (yet another reason i think they're made by Bosio, a small shop would not make much money on these if they only produced them in small quantities); i think i paid less than $100 for 5 nozzles and a 100 pc set of adjustment shims including shipping. he accepts paypal (he did for me anyway) since i was in the USA and he knows it's hard to do a wire transfer to Germany, and he doesn't charge the VAT.

I have the old fashioned injectors with hard lines for both supply and return. They don't have fabric return lines. Does anyone know if my injector nozzles are the same as on all your injectors with the fabric return lines? Those prices are very reasonable, and I need update my injector nozzles. I will write Mr. Raulefs as well, but I wanted to get a second opinion (in advance). Thanks.

You ought to put what Engine, Vehicle and so on you want them for.

Oops
 

Sorry, that was pretty stupid of me. I have a 1968 220D, W115, OM 615.912. The injectors themselves look rather different that standard injectors since they have metal return lines. I found a photo (from elsewhere on this site, sorry if I stole your photo) which hopefully will convey the difference. I don't want to buy new nozzles and disassemble one, only to find out their internals are totally different than standard. Thanks.

FSM skips my model
 

Above, I asked if standard bosch nozzles would work in my older 220D. I wanted to clarify why I need your help. The FSM does not specify which nozzle works in a 615.912 (220D W115). It lists a nozzle for 615.913 (which is the 200D engine), and a 615.941 (which is the 1970s version of the 220D engine). But I suspect neither of those has the older injectors with hard, metal return lines.

I have attached the appropriate page from the FSM for the 115s and 123s, but it sadly skips my model. I also cannot get EPC to work, which is confounding my efforts. Thanks.