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Old 07-18-2012, 09:52 AM
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They do come out easy with a hammer don't they. You'd have got a bonus point if you'd kept the nut on the end , saving the thread from any possiblity of damage...
It all depends on how much rust is in there. I did use a wire brush and a pick to clean out the crevices and also usrd penetrating oil to help it out.

No need to save the threads since the ball joint was bad.

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Old 07-18-2012, 09:59 AM
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Nice one funola - come and try that here...

...it is all sand. You'd probably reach layback40 from here before getting a ball joint out.

May be I'll modify your approach and set it in concrete first...
I will update my post but I forgot to mention that I did put a steel plate for suppport (approx thick 3" square 1/8 thick) in the hole first. That worked just fine and the knuckle did not get driven down into the earth. In sand, use a plate with more surface area.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:08 AM
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I used the Autozone C clamp without issue on my 300SD. Free is good when it comes to special tools. I don't recall having made any marks doing it.
In My Case I was observing what is there after I removed them. The marks did not get there from removal.

I was removing the Ball joints because I was trying to make an Adapter that would work with the C-Press.

What I ended up with turned out to already have been done by Dormison along time ago; and, you still needed to remove the Boot.

Also all of the replacement Ball Joints are not the same. In that thread a below I measured the OD of Lemfoerder and URO Joints. The URO has an OD that is going to be harder to press in.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/275392-ball-joints-differances-tolerances-123-a.html

It is also clear from the Threads that People experience different amounts of difficulty both in the removal and the installation of the Lower Ball Joints.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:12 AM
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Is there such a thing as an Urban Redneck?

I have a lot of different patterns of Camouflage Clothing, a bunch of Knives and Guns and my 2nd Vehicle is was a Pick-up Truck that I still have (43 years now); all got more used when I was younger.
I also don't throw away anything I can fix even if it looks poorly or needs to be fooled with to get it to work.
Sounds like you qualify. If there's no such thing yet, you can even be president of the URIn (Urban Rednecks Intl) . . .
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:30 AM
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I was taking a closer look at funola's pic and looking at the knocked out Ball Joint.
Does it look like the area of that particular Ball Joint is shorter than some of the others?

Or is it an optical delusion.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:55 AM
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I was taking a closer look at funola's pic and looking at the knocked out Ball Joint.
Does it look like the area of that particular Ball Joint is shorter than some of the others?

Or is it an optical delusion.
I'll measure old and new and let you know. Do you have the p/n of the Autozone press handy so I can call first before going?
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:42 AM
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Found it! Autozone ball joint press press #27023

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Old 07-18-2012, 11:58 AM
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ill usually prop it up and smack it with a socket and 5 pound sledgehammer. A framing hammer usually bounces off. BUT man, I wouldn't take my car to that shop again. I did one of these in the shop I worked at and 1 man with an air hammer can zip it out in ten seconds. Seriosuly, what shop doesnt have an air hammer.
Actually my first attempt (2 years ago, before bringing it to the shop) was by propping it up in a corner and striking with a hammer and socket (probably the same hammer and socket). It didn't budge no matter how hard I hit it. Maybe that ball joint was more rusted. But I think it was due more to loss of energy because the knuckle was not properly supported (too much springyness).
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:12 PM
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I'll measure old and new and let you know. Do you have the p/n of the Autozone press handy so I can call first before going?
I have a Harbor Freight C-press (got it on sale) and a PitBull C-press (eBay) and when I was looking at them I also got one from Autozone (I never did know what the Number was) to compare them.

All of the Presses had similar dimensions and the parts interchanged.
The C Frame of the Harbor Freight one did not seem to have as good of Steel as the other 2 and the casting of the Plates was cruder.

I could not use the Autozoneone because someone had buggerd up the opening.

On all of them the area where the Threaded Rod goes is rather sloppy. That does not help with lining things up.

I have noticed since I bought mine several years ago the Price has gone up considerably.

The OEM Tools I have seen and used from Autozone (Made in Taiwan) seem to be of a better quality then the China (PRC) ones.
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You can call it red-neck if you like, but I appreciate the ingenuity and creativity. I'd have wrapped the knuckle end in a plastic bag before burying it so I wouldn't have the extra cleaning (a nod to my laziness) but that was a good idea.
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Lower ball joint

I pounded old one out which was not hard at all + with the use of a vise + small peice of 2" pipe pounded the new one in which was harder then removing old one and should have removed boot before installing because tore the boot a little on installation still should last for yrs.
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:40 AM
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Nice one funola - come and try that here...

...it is all sand. You'd probably reach layback40 from here before getting a ball joint out.

May be I'll modify your approach and set it in concrete first...
We had a minor earth tremor near here yesterday. Do you think it may have been funola with his ball joint ?
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:53 AM
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We had a minor earth tremor near here yesterday. Do you think it may have been funola with his ball joint ?
Yep I reckon so. If in doubt blame funola!
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I am gonna borrow the Autozone ball joint press tool and evaluate if I can make it work. If after inspection and I determine that it will not do a good job, I will try to come up with some red neck self made tools.
I would be willing to assist you with this project if you wish to use liquid nitrogen. I use it fairly frequently at the shop and I believe that it would make fast work of this task without the risk of damaging the joint by using the Autozone press (presses on the ball).

Let me know if you want to bring it to New Britain.
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Old 07-19-2012, 11:56 AM
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You can call it red-neck if you like, but I appreciate the ingenuity and creativity. I'd have wrapped the knuckle end in a plastic bag before burying it so I wouldn't have the extra cleaning (a nod to my laziness) but that was a good idea.
Kudos.
Thanks! I did write:

"wrapped the knuckle in old jeans cloth and buried it in the hole"

I considered using plastic bags but chose old jeans instead since it is tougher against sand and rocks on the upper ball joint taper. The jeans worked fine.

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