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Old 09-21-2012, 10:13 PM
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My friend had a diesel rabbit. It was manual and he would rev the engine up and then add some clutch and the car behind us would disappear in a black cloud of smoke that would make tank drivers proud! We were teenagers and didn't care at the time about maintenance, but that was funny at the time!

You know, as far as the bug goes, what do you think 300D/TD vs Smart Car! Physics being physics, not a lot of mass there, though I think they have much more safety equipment.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:09 AM
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My friend had a diesel rabbit. It was manual and he would rev the engine up and then add some clutch and the car behind us would disappear in a black cloud of smoke that would make tank drivers proud! We were teenagers and didn't care at the time about maintenance, but that was funny at the time!

You know, as far as the bug goes, what do you think 300D/TD vs Smart Car! Physics being physics, not a lot of mass there, though I think they have much more safety equipment.
Not certain all the modern safety equipment can make the Smart that much safer. But the 300D/TD is a real automobile, while the Smart looks like a Circus clown-car!

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Old 09-22-2012, 02:56 PM
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You know, as far as the bug goes, what do you think 300D/TD vs Smart Car! Physics being physics, not a lot of mass there, though I think they have much more safety equipment.
The Smart Car is supposed to be decently safe actually. Here is a video about it which sums it up very nicely: Smart car crash test - YouTube
The Smart also outperformed the PT Cruiser in these crash tests. PoS
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Old 09-22-2012, 07:22 PM
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Interesing footage, I even like this one better

Smart car vs. E Class - YouTube

Problem is that it looks to be similar to the VW that your feet are too close to the front. I can't imagine that crash test dummy didn't suffer serious leg trauma. The smart car didn't even come close to the cockpit of the E Class.

Definitely safer than the bug. I'll still keep my TD!
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How well is the gas tank designed in a bug for impact ,its the real scare of this that steers me away from a re purchase.Imagine being pinned in a cage with the tank leaking which triggers a chain of events you dont want to even imagine , makes the whole Idea of head on lights at night ring a O MY GOD FEELING.Ever have to set a fire and use gasoline ,that alone will set the senses right.
I loved the bug wonder ,it was a car for the time when I had no car and this one was cheap and ready to go .I also will still go to bug events just not as much as the old days .I lost but have found another car that makes those joys of ownership still happen .Old cars are forever a hold onto the past ,the memories do live on along with the car but Some lucky few get to drive that memory.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:02 PM
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They say ones mans junk is another mans ,well you know.After revisiting the idea of toying around with another bug I just realized what a stupid mistake this would be after searching some on CL.It seems most have problems with rust ,if not rust its priced into the $4500 range or more,to those people that love VW bugs ,Im sorry ,its just to hard to hold onto cash without handing it over so easliy for a shiney death trap.Im here to say Ill never be drawn in again ,old MB diesels til the day I die.
the problem with old vw's is that vw abandoned the air cooled cars long ago. you have not been able to get parts for them for many years. your only source of parts is aftermarket, and the majority of them are absolute piss poor made in china junk.

not to mention that old beetles and such are typically owned by broke students and cheapskates, so it's almost guaranteed that every one of them has been so severely neglected and abused, that it'll cost a small fortune to make it right again.
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Old 09-23-2012, 05:54 PM
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Try Wolfsburg West for good quality ACVW parts. They specify the rubber compounds for rubber window seals etc that they sell, it is of very good quality and fit. Ditto for interior kits. Not the cheapest source though. Most other parts are still available but not everything is junk - check out thesamba.com for used parts for sale. Everything is available if you know where to look.

Regarding their owners, I don't know what to say about your generalization - I assure you many of are not just kids beating our cars into the ground. Fredericksburg TX has an excellent VW meet every year where you will find enthusiastic owners of all ages and demographics who appreciate the charms of these vehicles. Not to mention the whole southern california VW culture. I don't see any dichotomy in loving my Bug and my diesel Benzes - I just love them for completely different reasons.
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we had a 66 bug, ran great and loved it. Sold it to my brother and he ran it until he got married, and his wife wanted something fancy. Bought it back but never had the time to restore it so sold it again just s few years ago. My father had a 67 bug (new) when we were kids. He ran it till the engine blew. Had it about 7-8 years. He had it up to 90mph once.

No not in the same class as the Mercedes, but certainly a nice car to drive, and just had the right charm to it.
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:53 PM
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the problem with old vw's is that vw abandoned the air cooled cars long ago. you have not been able to get parts for them for many years. your only source of parts is aftermarket, and the majority of them are absolute piss poor made in china junk.

not to mention that old beetles and such are typically owned by broke students and cheapskates, so it's almost guaranteed that every one of them has been so severely neglected and abused, that it'll cost a small fortune to make it right again.
I think those 'broke students and cheapskates' sent most of their Beetles to the crusher decades ago. They couldn't afford a one of the remaining decent ones today.

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Old 09-30-2012, 04:26 PM
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Just watched a 1972 episode of 'Adam-12' where they puled over some Hippy-type driving a split-window VW bus in brown primer, with a wooden board for a front bumper. A real early bus with the tiny round taillights. Back then, one of those could probably be had for a couple hundred bucks, or even less, Ah, the good old days!

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