Yea -um i knew sooner than later someone would state this-you used the word acceptable-- to US drivers anything that wont let you clober the guy in the next lane at the stoplight is unacceptable. To Me-- riding on top of something rough as a cobb thats rattling my teeth out is unacceptable, <---theres no way I would go 4bt because no-one else is going to pay the drivetrain--or operating costs. 4bts are anywhere from 100 t0 140 hp. I can get the extra 15 out of this 617 for no cost. if we're talking torque--which is what I always went by on diesels, No the 617 cant out do the 4bt. The frame cant really handle a 6bt with the gm front suspension under it- it would definately match the awesome look though. You get the sensation you are hitched up to a locomotive driving a 12 valve dodge. ( if it WERE possible to put whatever in -with cost is no matter, ide be putting in a 2006 or newer - quiet - cummins 6 in, 80% quieter). I think its possible because dodges have a removable front suspension crossmember that unbolts like gm- Im NOT sure that the cummins diesel ones had it though- the earlier ones probably did.

Check out this 7500 lb unimog radio truck with a 617a conversion.

I will be watching this thread. oh boy!

That engine bay is nuts, the 617 could also fit vertically

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Yea--without tilting like the mog. Like adler's wife-I think the engine is going to get a crazy camo paintjob after degreasing. I also am scheming a unique mounting arrangment.

What's "bing"?

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anyway I got the g wagen flywheel and this four speed from the 309d truck I cannibalized. These had a 76 hp 616 and used to haul small cars around in Europe--but probablt just localy -not on the open road. As far as engine power i think more like a european-- you dont need three times the power you need in reserve.
It aint efficient.

Designation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
reverseG1/17-4
711.200
711.202
manual-4
4,628
2,46
1,473
1
4,348 Used for 240GD, 300GD and 230G,
gear box: cast aloy
bell housing interchangeableDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear


reverse

Used for some
460 280 GE,
gear box: cast aloy
bell housing interchangeableDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
reverseG1/18-4
711.101
manual-4
4,043
2,206
1,381
1
3,787 Used for some
460, like 280 GE,
gear box: cast aloy
bell housing interchangeableDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
5th gear
reverseGL 275
717.420
manual-5
3,822
2,199
1,398
1
0,813
3,7055-speed by Getrag, used for all 460,
one piece gear box and bell housing, aloyDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
5th gear
reverseG1/18-5/4,7
711.117
manual-5
4,695
2,401
1,436
1
0,806
4,0785-speed by Mercedes, installed in some 461
similar to G1/18
additional 5th gear

sealed for water fordingDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
5th gear
reverseG1/18-5/6,15
711.116
manual-5
6,157
3,148
1,743
1,278
1
5,3475-speed by Mercedes, installed in 461 (G250, G290), 461 running gear, and 461 military version. similar to G1/18
additional granny 1st gear
First choice for off-road use!Designation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
5th gear
reverseGL 76/27 K-5
717.439
manual - 5
3,856
2,182
1,365
1
0,799
4,2185-speed by Getrag, installed in
460, 461, 463,
one piece gear box and bell housing, aloyDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
5th gear
reverseGL 76/33 K-5
717.436
manual - 5
4.905
2.716
1.817
1.261
1.0
4,6255-speed by Getrag, installed in
460, 461, 463,





G 270 CDI, G 500, G 55, G 400 CDIDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
reverseG1/17-4
711.200
711.202
manual-4
4,628
2,46
1,473
1
4,348 Used for 240GD, 300GD and 230G,
gear box: cast aloy
bell housing interchangeableDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear


reverse

Used for some
460 280 GE,
gear box: cast aloy
bell housing interchangeableDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
reverseG1/18-4
711.101
manual-4
4,043
2,206
1,381
1
3,787 Used for some
460, like 280 GE,
gear box: cast aloy
bell housing interchangeableDesignation
Model
Gears
1st gear
2nd gear
3rd gear
4th gear
5th gear
reverseGL 275
717.420

Test pic to see if i figured it out. I aint a digital dude.

For all you not in the know.... In the rod world the Cabover crowd is a growing sect. These COE trucks are getting snached up as quick as they are dragged out of the farmers tree rows in Kansas and Nebraska. But before one gets redone-what starts out as a $1200.00 score ends up more like $6500 or $7500 from transport and storage fees and half the time the guy abandons and sells to the second or third guy.
The H A M B old COE thread is now 165 pages or so and shows no sign of slowing-- its an interwebular phenomon in its self- like a self generating perpetual energy engine.

can we start a COE picture thread? - THE H.A.M.B.

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You mean "fire floor". It will be an aircraft type composite --sandwiches of hybred, and layers of insulation/sound deadening to keep the noise/ fumes/ heat down under.
Cool front is gone pretty much -gotta go work on the fender pattern.
I wonder if anyones figured out how to get an aftermarket tach to work with the odd 5 cyl, I got a front engine sensor and also another on the rear plate of a spare engine.

I had worked with someone on here to drive an aftermarket tach from that sensor, but lost touch with him. It was the guy who made the replacement digital tach amps. Basically, it was a modified version that put out a signal a tach for a gas engine could use.
On edit: It's techguy512, he's still on here on occasion.

Are you posting on the hamb with this build?

yea there is some posts there-- starting around page 6o something-

that thread is the unofficial registry. Every COE here, Canada and Australia, and some in Europe appear in there somewhere. Since im making parts, there are guys who need them.Iive sold a couple grills, If there was absolutely no market- selling and helping pay for this project ide just make plaster moulds that would only get a few parts out at the most before they crumbled -but I needed a set of fenders and there will be others needing them. I also probably will reshape the wheel openings to fit the 33's better-- the steel ones were meant to accomidate 1940's semi size tires, and I dont have to sacrifice the primo steel ones. Im scheming to make tools for aluminum cast grill bars that can be polished like chrome -- that grill reminds me of the superman badge on his shirt- its friggin awesome polished up.

The GMC 270 could Do It To It too! (and the 302 from the mid 50's had even 50% + more hp)

Jared -I still haven't been able to open an account on the Ford forum--I really need your help-- theres a thread there that's dealing with part of my plan on this truck.

You're going to have to go through the "contact us" link at the bottom of the main forum page. I did everything I could on my end, so it'll have to go through the top guys now.

This may be of help - thread discusses tach options when repowering.

Adding a tachometer

"those are posts for Bob Myers' custom tach amp.

here's his official site:
http://www.mbelectronicupgrades.com/

I worked with him to make a tach amp that can work with more aftermarket or gasser tachs - thus opening more options."

You've done your research and I hope your right on the OM617 having acceptable power for your project.

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