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Old 10-24-2012, 01:13 AM
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somewhat off topic but interesting:

The Packard 4M-2500 engine was utilized in all U.S. Navy World War II PT boats. This engine was based on the 1925 Liberty aircraft engine which was earlier converted for marine use in racing boats. During the war the Packard engine went through various performance updates and modifications. With early engines rated at 1100 h.p. and progressing to 1500 h.p. during the war. The Packard 4M-2500 engine was a supercharged, water cooled, gasoline powered V-12 engine, weighing approximately 2900 pounds.

The Packard 4M-2500 marine engine was not the Rolls-Royce Merlin, nor did U.S. Navy PT boats use the R.R. Merlin engines, which is sometimes misstated. However, Packard did built a version of Merlin Engine under contract by Britain for British aircraft use.

PT Boat Info - PT Boat - Pakard V-12 Marine Engine

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http://www.outlawpulling.com/PDF/Packard%20Marine%20Engine.pdf
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:26 AM
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out of the 37,38,39 which are 3 of the nicest looking pickups ever built I would have to pick the 37.


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Old 10-24-2012, 07:11 AM
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Yeah, I'd take a 37 too. I like the laid back windshield of the 39 better though. It looks chopped and channelled compared to about anything from the same era.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:31 AM
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I imagine some of the younger members do not know the windshield wipers were all vacuum powered back then. Hit the bottom of a good hill and they pretty well died unless you let up on the gas. Also the length of the actual windshield wipers were a joke in comparison to what came later. Nine inch blades where quite common.

I still have vacuum wipers on my thirty nine buick. Some of the better cars added a vacuum holder tank to the system to help moderate the intermitent operational tendency. Trico supplied a majority of those vacuum motors for most brands of cars for a long period.

Some of the linkages to drive the wipers even incorporated cords. This was the high tech upside to earlier periods where you had a little hand crank coming through the window frame to clear the glass by hand with.

Car heaters were still an option on many brands during this period. So there were a lot of cars sold in the south without them. Of course those cars had no defrosting capacity either so you mounted a little six volt fan to the window frame to help out. Even with some heater setups that had limited defrost capacity.

Before the heated coolant heaters the set up was to scavange hot air from around the exhaust manifold and introduce it to the cabin. Prior to that heated bricks on a stove wrapped in covers for your feet was about it.

You have not realy lived until taking a trip of a couple of hundred miles in really cold weather without any form of car heater working. I would preffer never to do it again.

Cars of this period could not accumulate the total milages that todays vehicles do but in general stayed on the road for more years than what our daily drivers in general do today.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:39 PM
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Barry,
Thanks for the memory boost.
Vacuum wipers worked exceptionally well---when you didn't really need them, like when idling, or coasting to a stop.
Another challenge on those rainy nights when you were using the wipers was water-logged drum brakes. I drove thru a rain-swollen stream and rode with my foot on the brake pedal for better than a mile before they had any real function.
Yes, there has been some real progress over the years. "They don't them like they used to"--and that is a good thing.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:45 PM
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those vacuum operated wipers when operated off the intake vacuum were slightly better than manual wipers.

My 53 Caddy had them but had a vac pump in tandem with the fuel pump. That worked very well.
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Barry,
Thanks for the memory boost.
Vacuum wipers worked exceptionally well---when you didn't really need them, like when idling, or coasting to a stop.
Another challenge on those rainy nights when you were using the wipers was water-logged drum brakes. I drove thru a rain-swollen stream and rode with my foot on the brake pedal for better than a mile before they had any real function.
Yes, there has been some real progress over the years. "They don't them like they used to"--and that is a good thing.
My father once owned a late-Fiftie's Ford station wagon with vacuum wipers. I vividly remember the wipers slowing to nearly a stop when trying to drive up a hill.

The Good Old Days weren't always that good...
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[QUOTE=t walgamuth;3035268]those vacuum operated wipers when operated off the intake vacuum were slightly better than manual wipers.

My 53 Caddy had them but had a vac pump in tandem with the fuel pump. That worked very well.[/QUOTE

I had a 1954 cadillac fleetwood for awhile. Very heavy and likeable car in many ways. The large v8 produced about 25 miles per imperial gallon on that monster.. Most much lesser and of course lighter cars did not produce that kind of fuel milage.

The last half decent cadillac to me was produced during the 1955/56 years. For starters in about 1957 they replaced and improved the engine so you netted maybe ten miles per gallon. Cadillacs slogan used to be. It was the standard of the world. They eventually fell off that concept..

I still have a two stage type fuel pump for a buick straight eight. Combining the fuel pump and vacuum pump in one assembly new on the shelf. Like Tom has done and continues to do.Some of this stuff has got to go.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:44 PM
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One for sale

I was offered this one a couple of days ago. It looks pretty interesting. I can afford it, it looks pretty sound and it is closer to home than the other one I have been sniffing around. they are just too cool, they look chopped and channelled.
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Jump on it Tom. They are not getting any easier to get. Have you sold the Mazda yet?
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:51 PM
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Having a half ton pickup around that will never depreciate would not be a bad ideal. Mechanically bring it back and paint it a flat black until the time is chosen to do major work would be a reasonable cost option. This also allows time to find parts reasonably.

There cannot be many of those left. Your part of the country is studebaker country as well.
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:31 PM
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Jump on it Tom. They are not getting any easier to get. Have you sold the Mazda yet?
Not yet...need one?
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Old 11-03-2012, 08:32 PM
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Having a half ton pickup around that will never depreciate would not be a bad ideal. Mechanically bring it back and paint it a flat black until the time is chosen to do major work would be a reasonable cost option. This also allows time to find parts reasonably.

There cannot be many of those left. Your part of the country is studebaker country as well.
Yeah, that might well be what I do. I am pondering details but a 617 turbo seems good. A stack behind the cab might be in order too.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:50 PM
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I have communicated with the buyer a bit more now. He says the cab needs floor repair. Anybody done floor repair in a 39ish pickup? Any idea what I might be looking at for cost?
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:56 PM
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I know where there's a family of Studebakers out in the woods, rusting away. Includes a sedan or two, a couple of station wagons, and at least one pickup. The pickup has uncracked glass. Approx 32.029471, -93.020346
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