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Old 11-05-2012, 07:13 PM
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I read where the germans in world war 2 would light newspaper fires in the intakes of their diesels when they were deep in mother russia.

I like the idea of using a light bulb or electric heating pad on the engine over night.

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Old 11-05-2012, 08:49 PM
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a couple dangerous ways to do it-

a rag w/ Gasoline(yes, that stinky ***** everyone else uses) over the air intake- dont let it get sucked in!!, but the explosive fumes will help light off the oilburner.


the coals under the oilpan works, I remember my father doing that, he'd shovel a few outta the woodstove in the morning into a folgers can and slide that under the car. we didnt have that fancy store bought EE-lec-tricity.

but WHEN i am going to be boondockin in the winter, I bring a can of ether, a 100amp battery charger/starter, a remote starter switch (so I can control the ether AND the starter at the same time)and a honda 2000w genny. if you are going to use ether, unhook the glowplugs if ya got em(cummins dont)

I've never been stranded with that cold weather starting package.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:59 AM
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Great story!

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Battle Mountain in 1990? -30f? Sounds familiar...

We were on a trip to Wyoming, spent the night in Elko. Woke up the next morning to -30f. We knew the car would be cold, so dad started it up before we went to get breakfast. That Buick station wagon fired right up at -30f, but that was about all it would do. So we left it to idle and had breakfast. After breakfast the car was warmer, so we set out. First ones on the road, no other tracks in the inch or two of snow. But we figured the rest of the world would be along any minute... At least a snowplow... MV
That's a great story! When we finally got out of Battle Mountain about noon, it was still at least -20F and the car had problems with carburetor icing (remember "carburetors?"). I finally got a piece of cardboard to put in front of the radiator and we continued on. There were dead trucks all over the road, their diesel fuel had congealed. One was a Brinks truck -- talk about "cold cash!" The weather warmed a bit when we dropped down onto the salt flats; by the time we got to Salt Lake City it was "only" -10F.

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All my efforts....combination of incandescent bulb, blow dryer, and greenhouse effect....failed. So I had it towed.

Between three drivers, we have 15 tows a year with AAA. So 12 left!
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:55 PM
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In another thread I recalled how the Perkins 4.108 engine I swapped into an old Vega had a device consisting of a heater coil and a valve that ignited diesel fuel in the intake which would be sucked into the engine upon starting.



There were no glow plugs on this engine.

I wonder if a variation on that for cold weather starts would be to hold a propane torch at the intake while cranking. Along the same lnes as a hair dryer or a heat gun, just a whole lot hotter. I'd try it here, but the coldest we get is about 35.
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now why not a small space heater placed pointed underneath? i have used done that before with great success... one could also get a propane torpedo style heater and point under engine... not too close to body work but feel with your hand...
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In another thread I recalled how the Perkins 4.108 engine I swapped into an old Vega had a device consisting of a heater coil and a valve that ignited diesel fuel in the intake which would be sucked into the engine upon starting.

That's called a Flame Plug, they are popular on euro farm / construction tractors. My International 3500 with a German built D239 direct injected Neuss diesel came with ether start in the US but a flame plug when sold in the euro market.

There are also screw in intake heaters used on Deutz and other diesels.

A torpedo heater could be more of a problem that it is worth, I bought a 80's Ford diesel van that someone tried that trick. The grille, turn signals, marker lights are melted, hood has burnt paint and the headlights are cracked.

There is a company called Zero Start that makes a built in cold start fluid that is popular on large trucks.
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starting an old perkins in the winter was almost impossible. I would hold the fuel shut off closed and get the engine cranking before allowing any fuel into the cylinders. Gets some heat to the cylinders when t was too cold for the block heater to work (very worn out engine)

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