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Old 11-11-2012, 01:41 PM
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Need to borrow chain crimper and pin puller.

Anyone? Bueller?

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Old 11-11-2012, 02:03 PM
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Did you check the tool rental portion of the forum?
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:37 PM
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:01 PM
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Do you mean the tool that drimps the pins on a new timing chain?

I've never used one. I use a ball peen hamer with another hamer on the back side. I've never had one come off.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:58 PM
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Really shouldn't do it with that method, FSM stricly says not to do so and I would rather do it with the tool just to be safe.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:22 PM
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I responded to both your PM and your e-mail, and yet..........nothing comes back from you.

You're going to have a hard time renting anything unless you get your e-mail sorted properly.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:28 PM
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I responded to both your PM and your e-mail, and yet..........nothing comes back from you.

You're going to have a hard time renting anything unless you get your e-mail sorted properly.
Come on, give him 24 hours to reply before you crucify him.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:00 PM
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Yeah, he is still sleeping off his saturday night carousing.


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Old 11-11-2012, 10:18 PM
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Really shouldn't do it with that method, FSM stricly says not to do so and I would rather do it with the tool just to be safe.
That was suggested the last time I saw Him post the same advice; another freedom of choice issue.

If I peened the Link over with and the Chain failed and tore My Engine up I would never get over the feeling I was an Idiot for doing that.
It would be a major self inflicted blow to My Self-esteem; something I try to avoid.

But, it is good to know that peening seems to work; you never know what you might have to do when you are in a bind.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:20 PM
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That was suggested the last time I saw Him post the same advice; another freedom of choice issue.

If I peened the Link over with and the Chain failed and tore My Engine up I would never get over the feeling I was an Idiot for doing that.
It would be a major self inflicted blow to My Self-esteem; something I try to avoid.

But, it is good to know that peening seems to work; you never know what you might have to do when you are in a bind.
Personal choice I suppose, thankfully I do have contacts in the area that have the proper crimper. I'm doing the differential bushings Tuesday and a member here thankfully let me borrow his tool so I can use the correct tool to do it other than some sort of hack job tool I was going to make.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:00 PM
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Come on, give him 24 hours to reply before you crucify him.
How about more than one week............would that be acceptable to you?
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:17 AM
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That was suggested the last time I saw Him post the same advice; another freedom of choice issue.

If I peened the Link over with and the Chain failed and tore My Engine up I would never get over the feeling I was an Idiot for doing that.
It would be a major self inflicted blow to My Self-esteem; something I try to avoid.

But, it is good to know that peening seems to work; you never know what you might have to do when you are in a bind.
I've been working on Benz cars for 35 years - maybe I know something by now? I'd feel like an idiot for wasting time and money buying that espensive tool. I don't loan out my tools and don't ask to borrow either. I ask for help for advice, which is different, and generally saves me more time and money than needless tools.
I know how to peen rivets because I did it for years on knife sections on combines and other equipment. Believe me, it won't come off and if I thought there was a chance of that happening, I wouldn't do it.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:02 AM
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Cold improper deformation of the rivet in amateur hands is less likely with the tool. Less chance of making a binding situation as well perhaps. All people do not posess equal skills or judgement. What is hard for me for example may be easy for another.

There is almost no end loading on that rivet yet the failure of the universal clip type rivet link replacements where high enough not to recommend them for general use. Although I used them on gas engines at one time with no trouble myself.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:16 AM
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We still use the clip type on gas engines. The only reason they come off is if they're installed backwards.
The crimping tool peens the ends of the pins. It's really not that hard to do it by hand though.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:27 PM
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There is 2 faces on the Head of the Crimping Tool.

There is a Magnet that holds the Link in place until the Link starts to be pressed over the Pins and that face pushes the Link onto the proper position.

Your then remove the Head of the Tool and reposition it so that you can use the Crimping part of the Tool.
Both of the Pins get crimped at the same time and the same amount of Crimp preventing one end of the Link from getting peened tighter preventing the Link from going on crooked.

How well Link Pins peened with a Ball Peen Hammer comes out is going to depend on the skill and attention that the doer is able to put into the job.

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