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No, not yet. | 133 | 74.72% | |
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"...my cooling system is perfect..."
There is no such thing. You'd look funny if tomorrow you roasted the engine after a hose blew. Nothing in life is perfect. You've just been lucky. |
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while. I'm now contemplating fixing this problem once and for all, now that my valve stem seals seem to have left the building. *The overflow tank sits behind the fender liner. |
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I have all new conti hoses, by all I mean I'll I have like 3 original heater hoses behind the fire wall. Those will be swaped out, everything else is new. New Behr radiator, OE cooling tank and cap, OE water pump, new Behr T stat. Both the viscus clutch fan and electirc work as they should, although since the viscus one is original I may swap it out for the updated plastic version anyway.
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I've got the #14 head with > 215k mi and no issues whatsoever
Good performance and durability, Trap Ox removed at 166K miles
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Symptoms of the cracked head vary depending on the severity of the crack, and if the gasket has also failed or not. Anyway, a brief summary - if you have any of these things, it's not good:
1) Unexplained coolant loss with no external leaks 2) High pressure (say, 15-20psi) in the cooling system after the engine has cooled down overnight. This symptom may not appear if there is a leak in the cooling system, as the pressure may bleed off through the leak. 3) Oil in the coolant reservoir (but there's usually NOT coolant in the oil.) 4) Rapid, erratic engine temps under load - meaning the temp can go from, say, 85°C up to 105°C very quickly, and sometimes without a heavy load. 5) On my one car with the cracked head, I could release the cooling system pressure and drive it for an hour at *very* light throttle and have almost no pressure in the cooling system. But at any time if I gave it ONE full throttle burst through the gears to redline, to 70mph or so, it would instantly have high pressure in the system - with a new/good head, this shouldn't be possible. Side note - OM603 engine temps may be 85-95°C normally. Just because some other diesels seem permanently stuck at 85°C does NOT mean that the 603 has to be there as well. As long as it rarely exceeds 100°C, and almost never approaches 105°C except under full load and high ambient temps, don't worry about it. If temps ARE too high without the conditions to warrant the high temps, it's time to look for the cause. Often this is from debris in the radiator or condenser fins (or in the space between the two), OR a faulty radiator (this is far more common than it should be, for reasons I don't understand), OR it can be from a fan clutch that is not engaging (which can be caused by the plugged fins OR a cold spot on the radiator - many clutches have been changed unnecessarily, so troubleshoot carefully.) Oh yeah - the trap oxidizer has been suspected of being the primary cause of the cracked heads. However the damage can be cumulative. My trap was removed at 190k, but the head cracked at 230k with sudden, unexplained symptoms (high cold pressure). Removing the trap does NOT prevent future cracking. The original #14 head was still a flawed/weak casting, as noted in the OM603 factory service manual. |
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The No 14 on my L seems to be in order. The No 17 laying on my floor is crack free too.
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I don't have the coolant pressure problem nor any oil in the coolant. I guess my head is still OK. I do have some temp issues while going up hill. I took a good look at the radiator from the outside and noticed that the fins are full of greasy crud. I may clean it out but I have plans to sell the car as I don't want put any more $$ or work in to it.
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If there's little to no pressure when cold, and you are not losing coolant now, the head is probably not cracked. It could still happen in the future but don't lose sleep over it. Keep an eye on engine temps and if they get beyond 105°C, figure out what's wrong and fix it.
Your initial problem sounds like the cap was bad, or incorrect. This allowed coolant to flow into the overflow catch tank, hidden in the fender. That is not a sealed overflow tank - if enough liquid goes in, it will overflow out to the pavement. |
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I went through quite a long process surrounding running temps this summer ... replaced tstat, fan clutch, sender, because I thought the car was running a bit hot (95-100 on hot days, usually) ... after all that my indy did some temp gun exploration and discovered the temps were fine and the gauge was reading high. Given that fact, the temps have been great.
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For those that have experienced engine over heating or head cracking issues,
I am curious to know 1) What type (syn or dino)of engine oil do u use? 2) What type coolant (MB or after market) do u use in ur car? Thanks |
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603.96 Engine Crack survey
I had to have mine replaced last week. It was 17 thousandths out. He didn't even bother with the pressure test because it was too warped to machine.
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Bump for new owner
with serious questions RE: the # 14 head on his engine.
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