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Old 11-29-2012, 12:41 AM
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My Manual Boost Controller

My car gives me 9 psi. The low end and midrange is much nicer. It is starting to run pretty well. I want to get a bit more out of for those times I might be passing on a two lane road.

I have seen the manual boost controllers they are very inexpensive Mine is even less expensive. What fun is it to buy one when you can make it.

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I am going to test the pressure that it builds and either increase or decrease the spring tension. I also need to drill a small bleed hole on the waste gate side of the valve to relieve the pressure once the foot feed is let off.
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I am using a chrome plated round head screw as a valve. With the brass body as the seat. It is what I had handy

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Old 11-29-2012, 09:58 AM
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I just gave it a test. It levels off now a 13.5 psi. A bit higher than spec.
Noticable improvement in acceleration. I might try a small added shim.

I wouldn't attempt to do this without a pressure gauge.
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Old 11-29-2012, 10:45 AM
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I took a ball valve and reduced it to 3/8s
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:12 PM
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While I admire the inventiveness and fabrication if you had to go out and buy the Brass Fittings and other parts; you could likey buy yourself a New Adjustable Boost Controler on eBay with Free Shipping for about $15.

Several years ago they were around $10 but the price has crept up.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:37 PM
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While I admire the inventiveness and fabrication if you had to go out and buy the Brass Fittings and other parts; you could likey buy yourself a New Adjustable Boost Controler on eBay with Free Shipping for about $15.

Several years ago they were around $10 but the price has crept up.
I bought one of those! It was about $10 I think! Cheap and works well for me
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:19 PM
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I have about 8.50 in mine. I had to buy the brass but had the spring and valve. Cost is not the primary reason I built it myself.

The spring I used came from a spare spring from my reloader. I think the screw (used as a valve) came from a bicycle water bottle mount. I switched the back side spacer to a bike spoke nipple. Reducing the preload on the spring. I have it torqued all down, tightening the spring and didn't want to raise the relief pressure.

I knew I was going to get comments like "You can buy one " But I wouldn't be able have in operation in a few hours. Would lose the thrill of making myself. Also I would need to use paypal....Not for me if I can help it.

Old Sinner, The only kind of ball valves that I am familiar with have a handle and are quarter turn.

All this work on the Benz turbo has made me curious about the settings on my vw. I have never check them.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:30 PM
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I had a ball valve two bucks for fittings
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:37 PM
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Here is mine all buttoned up. Note the .041" bleed hole at the top. I am not convinced that is necessary but I only had the connections hand tight on my trial run and I am sure I was getting a bit of leakage between the fittings.


The intake manifold hooks to the bottom and the side port is hooked to the waste gate controller.

Oldsinner I am still having difficulty with visualizing your check valve. Are you just bleeding off pressure all the time?
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:08 PM
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I bought one of those! It was about $10 I think! Cheap and works well for me
LOL I'm sure it does but the big BOOST CONTROLLER HIGH PERFORMANCE decal is kind of on the Fast n'Furious side for some of us
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:18 PM
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I bought one of those! It was about $10 I think! Cheap and works well for me
Yep, I bought one several Years ago and it is the more complete Kit that the one that is $15 now.

I have never connected it as I have never set up anything to check My Boost. The Kit I have comes with a T fitting so you can connect a Boost Gauge more easily.
I am actually OK with My Cars performance but at some point I am going to get curious and will hook that stuff up.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:13 PM
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Third time is the charm. I ran it after reducing the tension and got a max of 11. 13 felt a lot better. Brought it back up. Will boost to 13 in 2nd and ~14 in third. I am leaving it like that.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:22 PM
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Diesel 911. I am sure you have done the math. Normal sea level pressure is ~14.7 psi. So if you have 9 it is like it is running at 23.7 and if you have a boost of 14 you have 28.7 Of course there is heat to contend with. I don't plan on using mine full out much as I generally don't drive that way and the mod doesn't affect the way it runs on cruise. It is like having a 5800 cc NA diesel at least for a few seconds, until the intake charge heats up.

Why the positive comments German Star? I don't see much in the way of down side. Saved some busted knuckles by not having to tune the waste gate directly.
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Diesel 911. I am sure you have done the math. Normal sea level pressure is ~14.7 psi. So if you have 9 it is like it is running at 23.7 and if you have a boost of 14 you have 28.7 Of course there is heat to contend with. I don't plan on using mine full out much as I generally don't drive that way and the mod doesn't affect the way it runs on cruise. It is like having a 5800 cc NA diesel at least for a few seconds, until the intake charge heats up.

Why the positive comments German Star? I don't see much in the way of down side. Saved some busted knuckles by not having to tune the waste gate directly.
Actually I was not even curious on the Math. Never thought to figure it out.

I think the ones that have exhaust heat issues or the ones who remove the ALDA completey and run the Turbo at a higher than spec boost.

If someone lived at a high Altitude the extra boost could be a help.
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Those boost controllers are atrocious, stay away.
I think there is at least 4 Members who have bought them;this is the first complaint I have read.
I fact I learned about them and that they were sold on eBay on this forum.

It is way too late as I bought bought mine over 3 years ago and it is still in the Zip Lock Bag. I am not sure what I did with the Silicon Vacuum Hose that came with it.
The Kit that I have is selling for $17+ on eBay.

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