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Old 12-05-2012, 08:34 PM
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Window Regulator Blues

Does anybody happen to know the part# for just the metal and rubber sill the window sits in that attaches it to the regulator? My 81 all four are totally rusted out. Manual regulators though are in superb condition! You don;t have to buy the whole regulator do you? I dug through EPC and could not find a part #for this individual part.
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:23 PM
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:24 PM
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Does anybody happen to know the part# for just the metal and rubber sill the window sits in that attaches it to the regulator? My 81 all four are totally rusted out. Manual regulators though are in superb condition! You don;t have to buy the whole regulator do you? I dug through EPC and could not find a part #for this individual part.
I had a scraping clacking noise at one time whenever I raised or lowered my driver side window. Took door apart and found that the channel that the glass sat in had rusted so that it splayed outwards and caught on other stuff on the way up and down.

I happened to have a set of doors off a 123 and was able to swap a good one in. Maybe that is your best bet - look for a parts car without rust that may have a good unit.

Otherwise, it could be that you have to buy the window with the channel attached?

http://home.cogeco.ca/~mbz/300D/channel2.jpg
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:27 PM
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Yeah all of mine were in the same condition as yours. I had to replace all 4 doors as the rust was so bad but I don;t have the rest of the door parts. I'll hit the yard and see but I think the 300D at the yard has electric windows. maybe the channels are the same!?
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My interpretation of the "Knee" comment = Knee to the Groin or perhaps lower.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:48 AM
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The front on mine are rusted also. Now that I know they can't be bought maybe I will get in there and at least try to stop the rust.
I suppose at the very least some WD-40 spray on them.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:22 AM
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Does anybody happen to know the part# for just the metal and rubber sill the window sits in that attaches it to the regulator? My 81 all four are totally rusted out. Manual regulators though are in superb condition! You don;t have to buy the whole regulator do you? I dug through EPC and could not find a part #for this individual part.
There is none.
This is part of the glass.

LF door, up to chassis#
1237200318

LF door, FROM to chassis#
1237200318

RF door, up to chassis#
1237200418

RF door, FROM to chassis#
1237201818

LR door, up to chassis#
1237300318

LR door, FROM to chassis#
1237301118

RR door, up to chassis#
1237300418

RR door, FROM to chassis#
1237301218






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Old 12-06-2012, 12:40 PM
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Yeah all of mine were in the same condition as yours. I had to replace all 4 doors as the rust was so bad but I don;t have the rest of the door parts. I'll hit the yard and see but I think the 300D at the yard has electric windows. maybe the channels are the same!?
I always thought cars from the Carolinas were rust free

I think you will find the windows are same - You will need the glass + channel.
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Old 12-06-2012, 12:53 PM
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I have a set of manual 123 windows that look like that, I'm going to set them in a tub of rust away and see what happens... I got nothing to loose right?

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I had a scraping clacking noise at one time whenever I raised or lowered my driver side window. Took door apart and found that the channel that the glass sat in had rusted so that it splayed outwards and caught on other stuff on the way up and down.

I happened to have a set of doors off a 123 and was able to swap a good one in. Maybe that is your best bet - look for a parts car without rust that may have a good unit.

Otherwise, it could be that you have to buy the window with the channel attached?

http://home.cogeco.ca/~mbz/300D/channel2.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/~mbz/300D/channel3.jpg
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It is a shame to have to buy a new/used piece of door glass. as Roy said and I have learned from taking these apart, the metal part is part of the glass put on at the factory. the glass and the metal channel are not each replaceable.

I replaced a L/F door glass in a 82 240D. was in the door to replace the door check, and noticed the metal channel swelled up with rust. so replaced the glass from a parts door I have. the rust had swelled up the metal, I thought I was going to have to break the glass to get it out. the glass has to come out at a angle as you lift it out.

A PNP complete door is around $60, door glass $40 +. Buy the door.

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Old 12-06-2012, 01:48 PM
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careful at the door... some PNP's will charge you for the door, the regulator, the window, and the switches and panels...
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Yeah the prices can vary between yards, depending how the DA behind the counter interperates what he/she is looking at.

I had a Oil Filter housing assy from a 617, she said it was a Oil Pump.
one person will nickle and dime you of ea little thing, and another will just blow it off.

Here is the price of a complete door, and what ea indivual part would cost.
You can see why Item# 120 is a good deal.

225-1Door Arm RestCar$7.49
120Door Assy. W/Hinges (CompleteCar$49.99 $4.99
120PDoor Assy. W/Hinges (CompletePick-Up/Van$59.99 $4.99
129-1Door Handle (Outside)Car$10.99
124Door HingeCar$10.99
181-6Door Lock Assembly W/O SolenoiCar$17.99 $0.99
181-7Door Lock Assembly W/SolenoidCar$28.99 $0.99
181-8Door Lock CylinderCar$3.99
129-2Door Or Window Handle InsideCar$6.49
113-2Door RubberCar$4.49
181-9Door StrikerCar$2.49
225-2Door Trim PanelCar$18.99

277Glass Door (Bare)Car$27.99



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Old 12-06-2012, 09:02 PM
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Well there is a 300D near here with rust free doors and 3 of the regulators. I'm going to head out there this weekend and see if I can grab them out of the doors. Unfortunately this is an LKQ yard and they nickle and dime you for every little thing. I learned my less pulling a manual 4 speed out of a 280E Euro there. By the time they counted everything I paid close to $450
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Opened up rear driver's side door while looking for an electrical short. Found that door has rusted deformed channel much like the one I pictured upthread.

Luckily I have a spare but rusted door that has good glass/channel.

I thought I had found and repaired ALL the rust on this car!
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