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Old 12-06-2012, 04:36 AM
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Gotta be a re-engined job if it's originally a US car. Looks pretty well done though apart from the vent and awful wheel arch trims.

No gas 124's had wing/fender vents of any kind, only the diesel.

The diesel wagons were available here in Europe until '96, with the 606 from 93-96. Mine is a '94:

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Old 12-06-2012, 07:04 AM
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Clearly a conversion from a gasser. Owner must have stopped at Home Depot for a bathroom fan vent



There was also a title modification/correction done a couple years ago per the "carfax"-like report.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:14 AM
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your car has that plastic vent? pic?
MB louvered the fender, and the louvered fender is a rare piece of metal...
I've got one, but what don't I have... this guy likely got a wrecked 95D and stuffed all that diesel goodness in there.
I hope they swapped the diff, as the E320 had a 2.65 rear, and it'll be a bit slow on takeoff without the shorter diff the NA Diesel came with...
Darn, I should have grabbed the second vented fender I found. I have just one for me that I need to get painted.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:42 AM
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This is originally a E320 wagon - a diesel VIN of a W124 model should have WDBEB, a WDBEA = W124 with a gas engine.

the second giveaway is the speedo, any W124 with OM606.910 engine does not have a 160 mph speedo. Of course you all know that MB never would use a fender vent like that.

to further confirm you can use the russian decoder if you wish but the 4th placement of the VIN is pretty obvious
The instrument cluster does have a glow light in it so I'm thinking it must have been swapped in if it's a repower.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:17 AM
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For the relative beginner, what does "been swapped in" mean vs. "repower"?

I am amazed that they would get approval for that engine change from the CA Air Resources Board/DMV. Lots of folks would love the chance to avoid smog checks.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:18 AM
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Look at the "AutoCheck Vehicle History Report"

Engine: 3.2L I6 MPI

Under "Full History"

01/21/2010 Costa Mesa, CA, Moter Vehicel Dept. Title Corrected

Look at the engine compartment: That rat's nest of wiring coming out on top of the D/S fender is not "factory".
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:18 AM
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'been swapped' means someone took out a gas engine and installed a diesel.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:42 AM
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If the dude won't be honest about a repower, who knows what else he's hiding. I would be hesitant even if the price was right.

Well, ok... if the price was right...

Every time I see a nice W124 RWD wagon, I think how awesome it'd be to throw a 603 or 606 in it. The problem isn't finding a good chassis. Very nice '93-'95 W124 wagons are cheap (a few are offered in the area for ~ $3k). The problem is sourcing a good 603 or 606.

How about mating that to a 5-speed? NOW we're talking
For being a swapped diesel and claiming it original rare car and trying to push it for above 12K is plain crazy IMO.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:20 AM
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I reported the listing, and sent the seller a detailed explanation of his inaccuracies.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:20 AM
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I am amazed that they would get approval for that engine change from the CA Air Resources Board/DMV. Lots of folks would love the chance to avoid smog checks.
Believe it or not CA is one of the easier states to get this done. There are three requirements

[1] the engine must be from the same model year or later

[2] the engine must be from the same class of vehicle (passenger car, light truck, etc)

[3] all the smog equipment must be present and working

(Of course, if the vehicle is '75 or earlier you can do anything you want)

The process is simply to take the car to a BAR referee and have it inspected and certified. Then go to the DMV and have it re-titled as a diesel.

Just as an example, here is the registration for my diesel powered 380SL



Here's a link to the build thread if you're interested in what it takes to do a repowter - 380SL Diesel Conversion Project

So on the '95 wagon, a 606 would be a legal swap, and a 603 or 617 would not be. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:32 AM
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Believe it or not CA is one of the easier states to get this done. There are three requirements

[1] the engine must be from the same model year or later

[2] the engine must be from the same class of vehicle (passenger car, light truck, etc)

[3] all the smog equipment must be present and working

(Of course, if the vehicle is '75 or earlier you can do anything you want)

The process is simply to take the car to a BAR referee and have it inspected and certified. Then go to the DMV and have it re-titled as a diesel.

Just as an example, here is the registration for my diesel powered 380SL



Here's a link to the build thread if you're interested in what it takes to do a repowter - 380SL Diesel Conversion Project

So on the '95 wagon, a 606 would be a legal swap, and a 603 or 617 would not be. Hope this helps.
I have heard of this too, that is why you see so many VW diesel swaps in CA.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:38 AM
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I reported the listing, and sent the seller a detailed explanation of his inaccuracies.
I think the owner is possibly trying to "Clinton-esque" in his crafting the description

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BY OWNER IS ONE OF A KIND 1995 MERCEDES E300D STATION WAGON, AUTOMATIC LUXURY MODEL, INLINE 6 CYLINDERS, OM606 NON-TURBO ENGINE IS ONE OF THE BEST DIESEL ENGINES EVER MADE.
While he just says that it is powered by the 606 engine and it is "one of a kind" that is verifiably true. Where he steps in it is where he calls it an E300D. I'd bet the title still says E300 - they don't change the model number on the title, just the "motive power".

Of course he may not be the one to do the swap, and he may have been an unwitting buyer of a POs deception.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:39 AM
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you mean E320 right?
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:41 AM
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you mean E320 right?
Yup... Thanks
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i know it's a california car, but at least here on the east coast, you frequently see those hideous chrome fender trims installed to cover up the rust...
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