I haven't been able to remove the front seats my '85 300D, are they different from earlier models or is the procedure different? I've removed the seats from my '82 & '83 without any issues. Can I get some help please.

The 85`s are the same. 2 10mm bolts in the rear and 2 10mm bolts in the front. and the rod that bolts (10mm) to the rear hump.

You will have to move the elevation lever as well as the forward revers lever to get access to the rear bolts.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

Same as earlier years: adjust the seats all the way forward and all the way up first, to get at the rear two 10 mm floor bolts. Then all the way back and down, to get at the front two. If either adjustment track is dirty/rusty enough to stick, then sliding the seats far enough forward and up to expose the rear bolt heads may require the application of sheer brute force. It is possible to get at the front bolt heads without putting the seats all the way back and down, but much easier if you can. And then the bolt which holds the seat belt slider to the hump behind the seat.

Someone needs to ask 300dster for pictures of his pristine 300CD with 81,000!

In fact, I will. Pictures, please!

*EDIT* I'm sorry, I guess this is off-topic. I'll shut up and go to bed.

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1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

don't forget about the sliders on the seatbelts...

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Thank you for the replies. Mr. J. Luna, that kinda felt like a body shot to the rib cage while I wasn't looking. I postded a couple pix in the 300 CD poll. If not satisfactory I'll take some more and send them directly to your email if you would like and thank you for your interest.

Gosh, I really apologize -- I meant it as more of a compliment, but re-reading it I see that I put it very badly (rudely), and that it was tasteless/off-topic. I almost deleted it last night, but went "Darn, he already has it in his e-mail... what's the point?".

If it helps you to understand why I posted that, I had had a very long day -- to use your term, I had two "body shots to the ribcage". At the beginning, a neurologist told me that because of a concussion suffered in a car accident, I am not allowed to drive unless an urgency arises that only I can fill. I love driving, especially our 5-speed, and he didn't seem to appreciate that (he told me that liking to drive a standard is just a phase that I'm going through, nothing lifelong).

Then, at the end of the day, I found out that the coupe driver's window that I had sold on eBay would cost me $120 to ship instead of the $30 that I had understood it to be -- and that I ended up losing $30 instead of making $60. Since family medical issues keep me at home (instead of working a part-time job), every dollar helps my attempted Mercedes restoration, and going from making $60 to losing $30 was a hard blow.

This doesn't excuse the comment I made above (I apologize for any rambling in this one), but I hope it helps to explain that I wasn't "all there" when I wrote it.

God Bless,

Jooseppi

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"Senior Luna, your sense of humor is still loco... but we love it, anyway." -rickymay ____ "Your sense of humor is still loco... " -MBeige ____ "Señor Luna, your sense of humor is quite järjetön" -Delibes

1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die."

Just about to remove seats on my 85 300D. Chassis manual seems to think that only driver side has height adjustment, but my car has it on both sides.

The manual says to disconnect the springs before removal. Not apparent to me why that is required. Anyone know if that needs to be done?

Looks like two front bolts, two at rear that are a bit hard to get at and one on hump.

There are raised sheetmetal attachment points where rear bolts go through. I have some rust in that area. A bit hard to get at to clean it up. Maybe should check under car in that area too!

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Graham
85 300D,72 350SL, 98 E320, Outback 2.5

I have taken the seats out of my 85 w/o any problems. the only springs are 2 under the seat and they have nothing to do with removing the seats.

Most all 123 Turbo`s 82 - 85 seem to have the height adjustment on both sides. some of the 240D`s (and 300D) will have a set height on the passenger side, and the rear raised attachment will have one bolt going into the Rocker.

You will have to use the elevation to get to those rear bolts. and with the rust issue the bolt and nut may turn and break loose from the clip. I fought them in the yards before....the rust won and never did get the seats out.

The rust on the floor doesn`t look good.


Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

It seems the height adjustment must be seized or tight. Not able to get it to move from notch it is in. Wrenches I have can't get at the rear boltheads. May have to give height rail a bit of encouragement!

Re rust - If you read another thread on my hidden rust repairs, this one is minor

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Graham
85 300D,72 350SL, 98 E320, Outback 2.5

Should be able to get to the rear bolts without raising the seat, but, you're on the right track (sorry), have someone in the back seat push really hard while you in the front seat pull up on the side handle.

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83 SD

84 CD

I remember your other thread.

As toomany said, will take two people to move the seat. I have had some one help me at PNP. I have had to really kick from the back seat to get them to budge.

Not so much the rust issue as the crap people spill, coke, candy, french-fries, hamburgers, twinkies, bobby pins, money you name it, and stuff I can`t identify.

It`s a good idea to use all the seat adjustments once in a while to give them some exercise.....or you.....trying to get them to move.


Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

I have fought seats in the junkyard. The clip that holds the nut for the bolt to go into......rusts. And then the nut spins with the bolt. I've used a hammer and a cold chisel to attack from underneath the car in the junkyard. It took me 2 hours to get the seat out.

And I've stood next to the rear doors (with door open) and kicked the back of seats before. It quite difficult to get the height adjustment to move when working by myself.

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daw_two
Germantown, TN

Links:
Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior
Cluster Needles Paint
New Old Stock (NOS) parts

Past:
3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda"
04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben"
& many more

Once you do get the seats out, do yourself a favor and clean/lube the adjustment tracks. It will also make it possible to re-install the seats with ease.

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I was able to get the passenger side out using a series of wrenches. I was lucky that the track was just at end and I could see heads of studs. both studs came loose using a 10mm open ended wrench. Then I modified an old flat wrench by grinding it down and bending the end. It was relatively easy although tedious to unscrew the studs.

The driver side was pushed all way back and covering studs too much to get at them. I used a hammer and a brass drift and hammered away until I got the seat to move forward enough to uncover the studs.

Then my wife called - her car had broken down, so job on hold.....

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Graham
85 300D,72 350SL, 98 E320, Outback 2.5