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Mölyapina 01-28-2013 01:33 AM

My 300D has not been started in two years. Should I worry about sticking rings?
 
Yeah, that about says it all. The car has never run WVO, and it has 139,100. It was last started two to three years ago.

layback40 01-28-2013 01:51 AM

I would pull all the GP's out & squirt about a tea spoon of ATF in each hole. Leave it for a day or 2. Then turn it over without GP's for about 10 sec. Test the GP's properly. Put them back. Then start it.

compress ignite 01-28-2013 01:54 AM

Hand Crank it First.
 
If (Why do you bring up sticking rings????) you suspect a problem.

Tie off (Down) the Emergency Stop Lever and using a ratchet crank the engine
around 4 revolutions to see if anything Binds.

Did you take any Prophylactic measures with the Diesel in the Tank?
(Adding 16 oz. "Pri-D" and 8 oz."Startron" to the Tank before filling.)

I'd change the engine Oil to a Fully Synthetic ('Purple,Red Line,Delvac)
With a new filter.
and Feed the Primary Filter from a 1/2 Gallon container of New Fresh Diesel.
Glow that baby and fire her off.

OR follow Layback's instructions.

Mölyapina 01-28-2013 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compress ignite (Post 3091047)
If (Why do you bring up sticking rings????) you suspect a problem.

Actually, I'm just trying to finetune my restoration plan and anticipate all potential issues before starting. I didn't know if not running the car for 2-3 years would cause the rings to stick or not -- I'm pretty new to both diesels and car repair.

Mölyapina 01-28-2013 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by layback40 (Post 3091046)
I would pull all the GP's out & squirt about a tea spoon of ATF in each hole. Leave it for a day or 2. Then turn it over without GP's for about 10 sec. Test the GP's properly. Put them back. Then start it.

No preference on DEXRON I/II/III, since this is just being used as an all-purpose lubricant, right?

compress ignite 01-28-2013 02:43 AM

No
 
Layback is suggesting the ATF because of it's Penetrating/Cleansing properties.
(? Your original concern WAS sticking rings ?)

The Most Aggressive "Penetrant" (Besides Kano's "Kroil") is allegedly:
1/2 ATF and 1/2 Acetone.

DISCLAIMER: I'm Not suggesting anyone Burn ATF/Acetone in ANY piston
engine.

Conspiracy Theorist's SEXIST Example:
Acetone is the Main component in Nail Polish Remover
LOOK what happens every Two Fortnights to it's Largest users !
AND they ain't even burning it !!!

compress ignite 01-28-2013 02:47 AM

Nah,people have Re-Started 617.XXX s after Decades
 
With nothing but a New Battery.

Howeveah,

You're going down the Road Less Traveled AND the most sensible!!!

BUT,If it was running O.K. 24 months ago your Only concerns are
filters and Fresh Fuel.
Of COURSE a New Oil Filter and Fresh Oil are a No Brainer.

Stretch 01-28-2013 03:46 AM

If you are worried about oil not reaching the parts other beers can reach - you could always try cranking it with the stop lever pressed for a bit (though after 2 years you might not need to use the stop lever!). Be prepared to change / charge the battery.

tombinps 01-28-2013 06:35 PM

I just did this last week. '84 CD had sat for 3 years prior to starting. I cranked a few revolutions on power steering pulley, seemed loose, disconected fuel line at pre-filter and pumped diesel into clear jar, no sediment or discolorization. Started first click!!!

t walgamuth 01-28-2013 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tombinps (Post 3091360)
I just did this last week. '84 CD had sat for 3 years prior to starting. I cranked a few revolutions on power steering pulley, seemed loose, disconected fuel line at pre-filter and pumped diesel into clear jar, no sediment or discolorization. Started first click!!!

That is what I would expect from a 617, unless it was in bad shape when parked.

kerry 01-28-2013 07:01 PM

No worries.

layback40 01-28-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jooseppi Luna (Post 3091051)
No preference on DEXRON I/II/III, since this is just being used as an all-purpose lubricant, right?

Any ATF will do. It is just to try & loosen the rings if they are stuck.
I would hold off on the acetone though.

Simpler=Better 01-28-2013 08:39 PM

Or marvel mystery oil

Mölyapina 01-28-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compress ignite (Post 3091054)
The Most Aggressive "Penetrant" (Besides Kano's "Kroil") is allegedly:
1/2 ATF and 1/2 Acetone.

Oh, well I have Kroil, so I may just use it. Should'a thought of Kroil...

mike-81-240d 01-29-2013 12:33 AM

My 84 had sat in a side yard for 2.5 years after the PO crashed it. I chained it up behind my 2002 Sierra Denali and tow started it. Boy did it smoke like a container ship when it finally lit up. After getting it to run I changed the oil, oil filter, fuel filters, air filter, and did a valve adjustment.


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