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Old 03-17-2013, 01:23 PM
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IS this a turbo or NA version?

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Old 03-18-2013, 06:43 AM
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SuperCow, thank you I will check the diagram later.
Karry, it is the turbo. But i had to adapt flying wheel to fit to my clutch and pressure plate from van.
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From kerry:

The only issue that would concern me with the arms moved slightly inward is whether or not the arms still have enough motion remaining to release the clutch disc. kerry

In base of theory ( what an mechanic have told me) on attached picture my clutch should work if there is a distance of 30 mm (pink dimension).

I will take transmission away from engine tomorrow an check it?
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Thank you SuperCow.
1.Without that connection will engine not work at 100%?
2.So, if pass by the overload protection.
What would be the problem (my turbo has its own protection (reduction of power))?
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:03 AM
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I have another problem. Now when i have installed oil filter which is pointed down on van ( because there is no place for filter in van) and not up as it is in car. I can not put engine starter on engine. Because car W124 has spool for movement of gear on the upper said of starter. And van on the opposite,.. it has to be on the lower said.

So i need to get van type of starter. It is an unexpected cost.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:55 AM
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I have another problem. Now when i have installed oil filter which is pointed down on van ( because there is no place for filter in van) and not up as it is in car. I can not put engine starter on engine. Because car W124 has spool for movement of gear on the upper said of starter. And van on the opposite,.. it has to be on the lower said.

So i need to get van type of starter. It is an unexpected cost.
Alternatively you might find that it is easier / cheaper to relocate the oil filter - don't rule that out just yet.
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Old 03-22-2013, 03:19 AM
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What thread is on the picture. I need it to make new and to repair thread on engine head.


I have took it down to medicate to fit new situation (to fix it) with pipes, filter and engine. I have find strange behavior while unscrew the screw. There was plastic on screw and it was damaged.

I can not attach the picture now (connection problem or....)
It is the diesel fluid warming system pipes on the diesel are in fiscal contact
with water pipe.

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Ignore the IP on the picture and look on the right edge of the picture. In the middle of it ... is located that screw ( of diesel heating system on the water pipe).


I had to stop work of engine installation because of bad weather and this weekend ia going away.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:45 PM
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Now to next problem :

My glow plug box have 5 contacts.
It has also T pine (temperature sensor).
Whit engine i have got all wiring but i do not know how temperature sensor looks.


So what tem sensore does? Does it regulate glow plug heating time?
And in case there is no sensor does the hiting time at maximum?

And in what resistance are does tem sensor work: max resistance and min resistance in temperature range?
The temp. sensor regulates the pre-start preglow and, only from 02/1989, after start glow time.

If temp. sensor is not connected (∞ Ω), pre-glow time is maximum - approx. 30 seconds.

Max. resistance is 2,5 kΩ at 20* C coolant temperature.
Min. resistance is 185 Ω at 100* C coolant temperature.

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I will check for tem sensor with this carcteristic on engine when i get home. Or i will put variable resistance near start key.

Thank you.
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:14 AM
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The only issue that would concern me with the arms moved slightly inward is whether or not the arms still have enough motion remaining to release the clutch disc. kerry

In base of theory ( what an mechanic have told me) on attached picture my clutch should work if there is a distance of 30 mm (pink dimension).

I will take transmission away from engine tomorrow an check it?
The distance is around 25 mm, so i decided to put thrust washers of 1.5 mm
betwen flaying wheel and pression plate to move arms slightly forward.
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We have rain again and if not is to cold for work out side. We have made apartment for living from garage, ...
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On the picture i have attached clutch cylinder from transmission. I have always problem getting air from the system when i disconnect the pipe.
I am working as with brakes.


Can you explain me what to do?

I am asking here and now to be prepared when it will com time to work on it.

Thank you.

( And am not sure , does the cyilinder from Mercedes C W202 (om604,om605,om611)
fit also on om602 ?
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I am not sure, but is the fluid resevoir going dry? I had a car that had one reservoir for clutch and brakes, and the clutch side had a "wall" around so that if clutch hose failed, brakes would still work. The problem was that when I was bleeding, the clutch side would go dry, but it would look like full from outside... I bled it maybe 3 times, it got hard, then soft and air again... oops
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1. clutch flying wheel modification
2. filter oil car exchanged with van type
3. servo wheel amplificatr removing (new belt 6 PK 995)
4. diesel fuel filter displacement
5. van type chassis adaption for turbo in horizontal direction

6. diesel fuel preheating adaption
7. glow plug system adaption
8. starter car type exchanged with van type
9. vacuum system for automatic transmission removing
10. injection pump low idle setting
11. instalation of steel cable for adding gas
12. exhaust modification
13. air intake pipes modification
14. different path for wirings between alternator and engine starter and fuel level
15. heating water pipe adaptation on exhaust side of engine
16. fixing of pipes of oil refrigerator to engine
17. engine position modification (low down for 3.7 cm) because of turbo to avoid cower box adaption
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:31 AM
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Point 1. from above:


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Upon further thought I think there is an explanation for the spring arms pointing inward. With a new clutch disc the arms will be forced to their maximum position inward. As the clutch wears the arms will slowly move outwards. So as you tightened the clutch assembly to the flywheel the spring arms had to move. Were all the parts involved a matched set? The only issue that would concern me with the arms moved slightly inward is whether or not the arms still have enough motion remaining to release the clutch disc. If the clutch disc were too fat, there would not be enough movement in the springs to release it.
I have find out laser cutting possibility and did drawing with PC (AutoCAD) to put thrust washer of 1.2 mm between flying wheel and pressing plate to have arms moved slightly inward
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