Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help




Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 04-09-2013, 09:08 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,353
I've always wondered how possible it would be to install a 617 turbo in a TN van. I'm pretty sure MB did a few at the factory. There were a number of aftermarket turbo installs for the 616 and 617 engines in that chassis. I have the impression that a different intake and exhaust manifold was used to move the turbo forward and up I think to get adequate clearance.

What is you opinion of the strength of the body/chassis once that right side doghouse wall is removed?
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 04-09-2013, 02:17 PM
Stretch's Avatar
Gettin' outa chokey
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Between a rock and a hard place (Back in Holland at the moment)
Posts: 13,986
Quote:
Originally Posted by pr2501 View Post
From Strech:


The pictures from #57 are aftrer cuting - new state.
Sorry - I didn't realise - looks good
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!

Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 04-09-2013, 04:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Slovenija (Koper)
Posts: 197
Yes. The engine is in. I would like to just lower it as possible to avoid modification in the cabin. The front axle is blocking this intention. I could stole cm here and there, but i am looking to have les modification as possible.
And the point B in my schematic is lower than i drew it. I had a strong picture in my head before the engine was in and propshaft connected to transmission. Now the point B,C and D will go down for the same dimension. At this moment i just do not know how much. Now i made it lower for 2.5 cm. But i can not go jet and drive with cower box on, because cover will hit engine for sure. I am almost thinking to turn it back to original high, complete all other modification and run without cower box , and when everything runs good, look to concentrate to make it excellent.
I have to add to my list also exhaust gas modification and different path of wirings between alternator
and engine starter. And maybe more else. But surly i my say any work does not troubles me because i will be happy when i will finally enjoy the ride without smoke behind me and when i will feel dissent response of the engine to my stimulations.
Thank you.

On the attached picture are dimensions that i have care about.
Attached Thumbnails
Installation of om602.961 into TN van-how-much-down.jpg  
__________________
1986 MB 307D Campervan (1988 om602 from 250 TD)

Last edited by pr2501; 04-10-2013 at 07:59 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 04-10-2013, 03:12 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Slovenija (Koper)
Posts: 197
Can I cut “horn” marked with red circle in attached picture?
(if I cut it away there will be les need to lower engine)
Attached Thumbnails
Installation of om602.961 into TN van-cut-turbo.jpg   Installation of om602.961 into TN van-cut-turbo2.jpg  
__________________
1986 MB 307D Campervan (1988 om602 from 250 TD)
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 04-10-2013, 03:20 AM
Stretch's Avatar
Gettin' outa chokey
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Between a rock and a hard place (Back in Holland at the moment)
Posts: 13,986
I don't have a TN FSM - but if you have one or can get hold of one I imagine there's a limit between the leaf spring and the bump stop



if you could find that information then you'd have a better idea...
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!

Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 04-10-2013, 03:22 AM
Stretch's Avatar
Gettin' outa chokey
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Between a rock and a hard place (Back in Holland at the moment)
Posts: 13,986
I don't see why not - does anyone know what this mounting point is used for?



Is it perhaps a mounting point for a stay for the air filter in the original set up / configuration on a W201?
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!

Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 04-18-2013, 08:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Slovenija (Koper)
Posts: 197
The engine runs. I have got engine starter and made it work yesterday evening. I had some problem to get air from the fuel pipes, but finally…



My valuation is that engine runs OK. Today I will get air from the clutch and I will test it on the road. Then I will say.

And make short explanation.... of all
__________________
1986 MB 307D Campervan (1988 om602 from 250 TD)

Last edited by pr2501; 04-18-2013 at 08:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 04-18-2013, 02:44 PM
Stretch's Avatar
Gettin' outa chokey
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Between a rock and a hard place (Back in Holland at the moment)
Posts: 13,986
...and may be make a video for us?
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!

Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 04-19-2013, 01:43 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Slovenija (Koper)
Posts: 197
I have again ( as i had last time while installing om601 (original was om616)) problem with air in clutch pipes.
I can not get it out. What is the trick).

I will make video ....
__________________
1986 MB 307D Campervan (1988 om602 from 250 TD)
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 05-01-2013, 08:35 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Slovenija (Koper)
Posts: 197
I had bad main clotch cylinder. I bought new. And i made some km of road today. Engine is lazy. I sospect that turbo is not working as it should. I can not hear turbo sound. Bad news. But. ... Never mind.
Lets resolve this problem also.
__________________
1986 MB 307D Campervan (1988 om602 from 250 TD)
Reply With Quote
  #71  
Old 05-01-2013, 09:01 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 18,353
Is the ALDA line connected? We'd like to see pictures of the completed job also.
__________________
1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13
Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 05-01-2013, 09:57 AM
Stretch's Avatar
Gettin' outa chokey
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Between a rock and a hard place (Back in Holland at the moment)
Posts: 13,986
X2 on the pictures!

Agree with the ALDA comment form Kerry - we were talking about the connections previously...

...but do you also get maximum travel on the throttle? You must have made some modifications there too...
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!

Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 05-01-2013, 03:11 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Slovenija (Koper)
Posts: 197
Yes. From the post #30 of SuperCow i could see what did misunderstud.
Now turbo works. But engine is hard to go on high gear to start the turbo.
And the throttle runs all way. I will attach pictures tomorrow.
__________________
1986 MB 307D Campervan (1988 om602 from 250 TD)
Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 05-01-2013, 04:46 PM
Stretch's Avatar
Gettin' outa chokey
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Between a rock and a hard place (Back in Holland at the moment)
Posts: 13,986
Do you mean that to get the turbo to spin up properly you need to drop down a cog?
__________________
1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!

Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 05-01-2013, 05:08 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Slovenija (Koper)
Posts: 197
Engine has to have high rottation at minute before turbo starts to show power.
Attached Thumbnails
Installation of om602.961 into TN van-max.jpg   Installation of om602.961 into TN van-min-gas.jpg   Installation of om602.961 into TN van-stil-rope2.jpg  
__________________
1986 MB 307D Campervan (1988 om602 from 250 TD)

Last edited by pr2501; 05-02-2013 at 12:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page