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Old 02-02-2013, 07:32 PM
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The battery could have just toasted a cell while it was sitting... IF crossing the terminals doesn't work my first step would be to have the battery tested.

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Old 02-02-2013, 07:40 PM
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Rather than just attaching jumpers to terminals. If it were mine I would consider putting test leads on the point coming from the transmission switch and seeing if you have 12 volts there when the starter switch is engaged.

It might be wise to jiggle the shift lever as you try the starter.

Oh how is this an Emergency? you never really said.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:53 PM
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Rather than just attaching jumpers to terminals. If it were mine I would consider putting test leads on the point coming from the transmission switch and seeing if you have 12 volts there when the starter switch is engaged.

It might be wise to jiggle the shift lever as you try the starter.

Oh how is this an Emergency? you never really said.
Well My gf was trying to go home and the car is stuck at the church until I get it running.

I tried calling 3 people I know regarding it and no one would answer so to the forum! I was hoping to get it started while there to bring it home.

Tomorrow morning before church I will jump the NSS switch and see what happens.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:57 PM
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The battery could have just toasted a cell while it was sitting... IF crossing the terminals doesn't work my first step would be to have the battery tested.
Tried starting the car with my battery and it was a no go.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:03 PM
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Perhaps the ground connection to the block is the issue? I would run a jumper cable from the negative side of the battery to the block and see if there is a change. If the battery is good and jumping the terminals on the starter did nothing....the only 2 possibilities are a bad ground or starter is bad.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:04 PM
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so... are you thinking its the starter?
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:07 PM
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It's all just guesswork until he gets a volt meter and sees where there's voltage and wheres there not.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:08 PM
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At least she isnt stopped outside of the Grim Reapers club house. Could be worse.

Be careful about jumping wires. This circuit isn't fused that I can see.

You have a ton of posts sir. And a member for almost 10 years. Hard to know how describe faults. Group efforts help.

Might be good to download the wiring schematic. It lists wire gauge, insulation color and connectors with locations. I don't have all of it printed yet but I do have it downloaded.
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However I do not get a spark from it when i touch the jumper cables together.
Well, THERE'S a clue. It should normally look almost like an arc-welder when you put those together. If no (sufficient) power can get out from the battery, very little can get in, either. You say you were going to clean terminals. Did you clean the battery terminals themselves? If not, I would start there.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:20 PM
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Oh I missed that one. Using jumper cables as test device.... sorry
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Well, THERE'S a clue. It should normally look almost like an arc-welder when you put those together. If no (sufficient) power can get out from the battery, very little can get in, either. You say you were going to clean terminals. Did you clean the battery terminals themselves. If not, I would start there.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:16 PM
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I found it odd that it did not spark. I'll test the voltage as well and the discount auto I bought the battery at is right down the street from where the car is sitting. I just bought the battery last month.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:19 AM
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Battery has 12.29 volts

Bypassing NSS does nothing

Using a piece of 12 gauge wire on the terminal block on the 1st and 3rd connector does nothing.

Next step???

Pull battery and get it tested?

The alternator works, it puts out 13 .something volts last I checked.

Shifter bushings are perfect on each end as well.

I just find it very very odd that I could start it just fine these last few days and then, nothing
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:26 AM
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Battery is low but I would think that voltage would get you a click at the starter. What happens if you jump it and leave the cables on charging the battery for about 15 minutes?
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:37 AM
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What voltage do you get on the battery when the key is in the start position?
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:14 AM
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I just find it very very odd that I could start it just fine these last few days and then, nothing
I know the feeling, as it happened to me before. Twice.

It was years ago, both times on my w116. Once it was a internal battery short the second time IIRC it was the starter.

In both instances there were no advance symptoms.

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