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EMERGENCY: w123 no start
W123 300d no start
Put in park or neutral and not even a click from the starter. What the fudge is going on?!!! I came out earlier and it started just fine. Multiple times. Please advise |
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Last edited by TheDon; 02-03-2013 at 02:15 PM. |
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Do you have the junction box on the inner fender in front o fthe battery? If so, jump terminals 1 and 3 after glowing the plugs. If you don't have that terminal box you will have to jump across the small terminal on the starter solenoid to the big main hot wire. Could be your NSS. There are instructions on here somewhere how to jump that above the drivers kick panel.
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Have you tried bridging the starter terminals? There is a little plastic terminal box on the passenger side fender under the hood. Bridge one side to the other and see if it cranks.
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2004 F150 4.6L -My Daily 2007 Volvo XC70 -Wife's Daily 1998 Ford F150 -Rear ended 1989 J-spec 420SEL -passed onto its new keeper 1982 BMW 733i -fixed and traded for the 420SEL 2003 Volvo V70 5 Speed -scrapped 1997 E290 Turbo Diesel Wagon -traded for above 1992 BMW 525i -traded in 1990 Silver 300TE -hated the M103 1985 Grey 380SE Diesel Conversion, 2.47 rear end, ABS -Sold, really should have kept this one 1979 Silver 300D "The Silver Slug" -Sold |
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I'll try that I left the car. I think I saw the thread on how to bypass the NSS.
I tried jumping it thinking the battery died but the radio and windows work. However I do not get a spark from it when i touch the jumper cables together ( not hold them. That would be dumb). After I drop my gf home i get some sand paper and clean all terminals and bring some wire to bypass the NSS). |
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On my schematic for my w123.133
battery heavy cable goes to starter then to connector 105 red wire from c105 to the Main switch . then to via a violet and white switch to the transmission switch Then back to c105 on a violet wire. from there it goes to the starter solenoid get your voltmeter or tester out.
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85 Merc 300D - Unwinding 31 years of wear 86 VW TD Mahindra Diesel Iseki Diesel In 2007 I didn't own a diesel. |
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Could be a dead battery. Did you leave the lights on? Battery could run the radio and windows but lack the power to engage the starter.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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Is it at all possible that whatever device detects if the car is in Park is messing up? I've forgotten to put my car in park and tried to start it and it's just dead quiet, does nothing. Something else to think about?
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Try what the other guys mentioned about jumping the terminals on the starter. Had my 300D do this a couple times and can't explain it, so now I keep a pair of needle nose pliers with me to jump terminals if needed.
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Nothing was left on. I tried jumping it with no click from the starter. Usually when jumping a car with a low battery at least the starter clicks. And I tapped on the starter solenoid too
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What gauge wire should I use? I have pliers but they are not insulates.
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Be careful there jumping terminals. If you short out the battery you will likely melt any wire and hand that is holding it.
Use a 12v test lamp to see which ones are hot and which are grounded. When I am troubleshooting I usually go to a mid point in the circuit and figure out which side of the fault you are on. Then I divide the distance again. Good luck to you.
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85 Merc 300D - Unwinding 31 years of wear 86 VW TD Mahindra Diesel Iseki Diesel In 2007 I didn't own a diesel. |
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that would be the wonderful netural start safety switch. Which will work if you put the car in neutral to start when they go bad. |
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Try first and last.
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1977 300d 70k--sold 08 1985 300TD 185k+ 1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03 1985 409d 65k--sold 06 1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car 1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11 1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper 1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4 1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13 |
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