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Old 02-05-2013, 10:19 AM
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Well, if someone would want to buy it to fix that would be better, but I still don't think I could fix it myself. It is sorta frustrating that I made a mistake by buying it, but its too late to do anything about that now. I might be able to fix it eventually, but I will need a different car long before that, and I'm hesitant to start taking it apart when I would quite likely not be able to get it running again. At least the way it is someone could see that it runs fine, the transmission works, etc.

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Old 02-05-2013, 10:36 AM
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Paying someone to swap in a used IP you purchased from a member here or from a junkyard wouldn't be very expensive. Certainly a lot less than the expense of a replacement car.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:09 AM
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Well, if someone would want to buy it to fix that would be better, but I still don't think I could fix it myself. It is sorta frustrating that I made a mistake by buying it, but its too late to do anything about that now. I might be able to fix it eventually, but I will need a different car long before that, and I'm hesitant to start taking it apart when I would quite likely not be able to get it running again. At least the way it is someone could see that it runs fine, the transmission works, etc.

really, it's not that big a deal to swap in the parts you will need.
as long as you get an IP that's from a RUNNING car, from someone you TRUST, it's pretty simple to just parts swap and get running.
you COULD try repairing the idle stop with JB weld or somesuch... but I doubt someone would buy the car for a reasonable amount with the idle problems yours has.
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You don't even think someone would pay $600 or so for it? I paid $2300 for it 2 years ago and fixed a lot of stuff since then, but thats my fault for not researching them better before I got it. I could find an injection pump in pick and pul for surel, and maybe the throttle linkage, but I still wouldn't know how to remove one. I probably have to buy a new car to matter what unless I just dont drive anywhere for a few months, so I likely can't keep this one even if I am able to eventually fix it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:13 PM
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Paying someone to swap in a used IP you purchased from a member here or from a junkyard wouldn't be very expensive. Certainly a lot less than the expense of a replacement car.
If I took it to a shop, I would expect they would just tell me to take it to pick and pull and buy a new car, and I don't really know of anyone else anywhere near where I live who knows about diesel mercedes. People either have nice ones and take them to a shop, or beaters that they just get rid of if anything too complicated breaks.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:18 PM
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but I still don't think I could fix it myself.
One of my favourite sayings: "If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right." (Henry Ford)

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It is sorta frustrating that I made a mistake by buying it, but its too late to do anything about that now.
You bought a 30-odd-year-old car that apparently gave you two years of solid service, overall, and appears to be in very nice shape. That doesn't even get close to the neighbourhood of being a mistake, where old cars are concerned.

Beating up on yourself won't improve your chances of making a good decision here.

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If I took it to a shop, I would expect they would just tell me to take it to pick and pull and buy a new car,
That is possible, some shops only want to work on fast, high-profit jobs on newer cars. You don't want them working on any part of your car, period. Then look for another shop. Or start by posting a new thread asking if anyone can recommend a shop in your general area.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:46 PM
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That is possible, some shops only want to work on fast, high-profit jobs on newer cars. You don't want them working on any part of your car, period. Then look for another shop. Or start by posting a new thread asking if anyone can recommend a shop in your general area.

I don't know of any shop that will fix a car with used parts, and some of them wont even use new parts from the dealer and miss out on their 225% markup from the price you can walk into a dealer and buy it for lol. In this area I could probably buy 2 running 300sds just for what a rebuilt pump would cost too.
I don't currently have a place other than on the street where i can work on the car with it not movable for more than a couple days, and I really don't want to start a job like that that I don't know how long it will take to finish where the city could tow if it someone didn't want it there anymore.
If someone from here could help me fix it (probably at my house because im afraid it will run away if I try to drive it anyplace), I would be happy to pay for the help, but unless I can get it fixed in the next week or so I will just have to buy a replacement and sell the car for whatever someone will pay who would want it for parts or to fix it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:16 PM
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You might be able to get some help from this guy selling these lights, worse case he should have all the parts you need. He is usually pretty busy on other cars....but you may luck out.....

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Old 02-05-2013, 01:31 PM
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Don't scrap the car. Contact turbobenz here on peachparts. he replies quickly to PMs. he is a mobile mechanic here in Sacramento. When I get stuck he's who I call!

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Old 02-05-2013, 02:16 PM
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I promise I won't scrap it until I at least try to sell it for a couple months. I don't think I can get it fixed fast enough to not need another car to drive though, as of the last week or so all but one of the 5 cars my family has pretty much all can't be driven for one reason or another now, so I'm kinda stuck now.
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Old 02-05-2013, 03:40 PM
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Don't scrap the car. Contact turbobenz here on peachparts. he replies quickly to PMs. he is a mobile mechanic here in Sacramento. When I get stuck he's who I call!

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/members/turbobenz.html
That's some excellent advice there.
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If you know the car is already broken, why not TRY to fix it yourself, obviously you wont break it more. You can surprise yourself at what
you CAN do if you make the effort. There are plenty of people here
willing to help you make your own repairs for free!!! Just get the IP from someone here. I am a girl and make repairs to my 123 when able, this sounds
like a swap easier than you think. A few bolts to remove and a few screws to remove
You will be surprised what you can do IF YOU MAKE AN EFFORT!!!
DONT SELL IT, THIS CAR WILL GIVE YOU BETTER SERVICE AND YEARS OF
USE COMPARED TO NEWER CARS. Sounds like someone in your family needs to learn how to fix cars, does this not give you the idea that newer cars break more frequently than your 25yr old car that still runs? Your "old"
car will give you years of service get your hands dirty and fix it, if nothing else but to raise the selling price. A brken car has less value than a running car. and in the long run it will cost you more for a newer used car and your insurance will go up too.
What ever you choose at least make the effort to try and fix it before you sell it. I am sure someone here would love to have it being that seems to be an easy fix. It looks like it is in very good condition fro the outside pictures you posted, post some more of the inside and I bet someone here
will take it off your hands fast!
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:38 PM
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If you want to change the pump yourself its not all that hard. The hardest part is setting the engine to Top Dead Center and setting the pump the the correct place (statically timing the pump) and then installing it. Like stabbing a distributor on a gas car. Then you need to verify the timing and fine tune it. These procedures are here on the forum. There is also a timing tool that can be used. If I remember correctly Derek (turbobenz) has this timing tool.

If I wasn't working pretty much all month, I'd offer to help pull a used pump from Pick n Pull. It really is as easy as it looks. You only need to 3 bolts at the front of the pump where it meets the block, 1 bolt on a bracket at the back of the pump, and the injection lines.

As for installing it, I'd call Derek and have him get the timing dead on.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:24 AM
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You might be able to get some help from this guy selling these lights, worse case he should have all the parts you need. He is usually pretty busy on other cars....but you may luck out.....

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That guy parts cars out, name sounds familar.

Dieselkraut23 is in the Sacto area and works on these cars. contact him, he is a forum member.


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if the car is only running away at idle, and you need to move the car...

remove the air filter assembly. find a piece of scrap wood that nicely covers the U shaped tube that goes from the air cleaner assembly to the turbo inlet. when you need to kill the motor, cover the opening of the U shaped tube and you will be strangling the motor "off". you don't want to drive around with no air filtration, but this will help you move the car around as needed.

whatever you do, DON'T put your hand near the turbo inlet while the car is running if the turbo inlet is exposed. the blades of the turbo will mince your fingertips.

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