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Differential 3.07:1 vs 2.88:1 vs 2.47:1
How do you guys like your rear differentials? Our driving consists of mostly fast local roads/highways, and I'd rather avoid repeating the Corolla's 55 MPH @2000 RPM in 5th. What RPMs do the 3.07s run at highway speeds (hopefully, I can find this out myself sooner rather than later)? What do the 2.88s and 2.47s run? How is the 2.47 in the city? Is the 2.47 a direct bolt-on to my '84? Is there anything else I should consider? How does a potential 4-speed swap affect his?
Oh, and could I take a camper 5-speed w/extra-low first and mate it with the 2.47 to ease city driving? |
2.88 compromise
hi mate,
it depends which engine you do consider i.e I had some experience with 300d n/a and turbo,manual or auto.... diff's act quite different under those two. for the n/a manual I would not go under 2.88 as the starting will take forever on the other hand turbo engine especially with auto will do nice with any in range 2.24-3.07....only thing you have to decide what is the desired state - low noise or top speed. 2.88 is my choice as you can see from the signature 2.24 is also from gasser and can be used also (quiet little thing and a bit of a slow dog...2.47 will do fine IMHO) edit; 2.47 w/o abs 380,500 1:2.47 380,500,560SEL 1:2.47 ABS 420SEL 1:2.47 as for the 4spd swap: if you have 300n/a and a manual with 2.47 ...NO good. you have to go lower...3 point something... . |
also, most 2.xx diffs have the large flange that will need to be swapped for your vehicle's
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I thought it was a direct bolt on. Are those flanges different? Please tell me it ain't so! Jeff |
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I have put the 2.88 in the SD ('84) and it is, for me, a perfect setup. I would only recommend the 2.47 to those who do extensive high speed driving (70 mph +) on relatively flat roads and will suffer the difficulty in launching the vehicle from a standstill. The 2.47 does have the larger case and requires a change of flange. It also may require a change in axle shafts but I am not certain. |
I've got no complaints about my 2.47. I bought it that way so I can't really compare it to the stock diff. It turns over at about 2300rpm when cruising at 100km\hr so its nice and quiet on the highways. It is a little slow off the line if your on a really steep hill but I think that might be an issue with the bowden cable not engaging 1st as soon as it should. Theres a delay before it down shifts and there shouldn't be... Over all it seems good to me.
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I agree with Brian 100% on this.
My previous 617 had the 3.07:1 which seemed a bit high strung at 65-70mph on the freeway. The current SD has the 2.88:1 factory, seems about ideal considering the powerband of the motor and US speed limits. I suppose it could tolerate a 2.47:1 on the road, but with the A/C on and a locked fan clutch... I think it would be pretty sad around town. These are econo cars, going 80mph is not going to permit good fuel econ regardless of which diff you have installed. |
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I tend to run 85 on the toll roads around Austin... That will net you 19mpg in a wagon.
And that's with the 2.88 |
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My 1978 300SD is driven 1,000 miles/week to and from work. With the 3.07:1 axle, 70 is 3000 rpm. My 2.47:1 is almost ready to install, a 600 rpm reduction in cruise rpm... |
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My car has the 2.88, From the graphs that I have seen the engine makes peak torque at about 2000 rpm. I don't accelerate hard and would be very happy with a 2.47.
I have looked at GM transmission adapter plates. The GM 4 speed auto has a .7 top gear. Might give similar effect if it would fit in the tunnel. I am leaving my car stock unless a specific part quits. |
The 2.47 actually doesn't make much difference in take off acceleration on a 300SD, it just holds each gear longer, and you don't need/use 4th under 50mph...highway acceleration in 4th does suffer a little, but the rpms are much lower and makes it very pleasant.
I have the torquemonster setup in my 300SD, a 1985 torque converter (2600 rpm stall speed) and trans + 3.07 diff. Front of the car practically lifts off the ground with takeoff torque. I dare say for the first 10-15mph it can take off faster than my 420....its great around the city, it just effortlessly takes off and gets up to 40-50 easily. Overall the 2.88 is probably best for a diesel, and 2.47 or 2.24 for a gasser (of adequate power levels) The key with the diesels is the torque converter, it really makes a difference! |
so what is the stock on a 84 sd?
am I imagining the w123 300 turbo D seems to have a taller or lower ratio rear end as it seems to rev slower. cheers |
[QUOTE=SD300;3099623]so what is the stock on a 84 sd?
3.07 Jeff |
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